Originally Posted by George

Considering the problems they've had with Moslems....

And the fact that the Syrian regime needed the Russians to keep it in power, I will be interested to see how Syrian troops enjoy the sub-zero temperatures of Ukraine.

The Ukrainians have created a hotline for the Russians who have lost contact with their sons, husbands, brothers, and boyfriends.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f-5bAy2En0&t=259s

Originally Posted by MontyB

And the fact that the Syrian regime needed the Russians to keep it in power, I will be interested to see how Syrian troops enjoy the sub-zero temperatures of Ukraine.

really can't imagine the Russians needing outside manpower, maybe a way for Syria to pay some of its debt?

Originally Posted by I3BrigPvSk

The Ukrainians have created a hotline for the Russians who have lost contact with their sons, husbands, brothers, and boyfriends.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f-5bAy2En0&t=259s

That is interesting, I am amazed that Russia is allowing it for military reasons.

Originally Posted by George

really can't imagine the Russians needing outside manpower, maybe a way for Syria to pay some of its debt?

I would imagine they need manpower with some combat experience the claim is that Syrian troops have experience in urban warfare.

Originally Posted by MontyB

I would imagine they need manpower with some combat experience the claim is that Syrian troops have experience in urban warfare.

Or just need cannon fodder...

I thought this was an interesting take on Russian logistics...

russian logistics

With that video in mind would it be an option for Ukraine to devote some of it's UAV capacity to attacking rail heads and marshalling points inside Russia itself to artificially extend Russian supply lines?

Reports of Putin asking China for military help, if true the Russians must be a lot weaker than it seems.

Originally Posted by George

Reports of Putin asking China for military help, if true the Russians must be a lot weaker than it seems.

Yes, this is war is what Monty said; the war of WTF. But I am impressed by the performance of the Ukrainian armed forces. Those who are fighting for their country, homes, families, and love ones are really motivated. There are signs of morale issues among the Russians. I am thinking the Ukrainians can pull this off

Originally Posted by I3BrigPvSk

Yes, this is war is what Monty said; the war of WTF. But I am impressed by the performance of the Ukrainian armed forces. Those who are fighting for their country, homes, families, and love ones are really motivated. There are signs of morale issues among the Russians. I am thinking the Ukrainians can pull this off

I agree about the performance of Ukraine's armed forces but how much of that is Russian under performance?
I don't share your optimism on the outcome as long as Putin is prepared to employ a rolling artillery barrage from one end of the country to the other and carry out a war of attrition then it is impossible for them to lose the war, they will be there for years trying to subdue an insurgency, Russia's economy will be destroyed by sanctions and I would expect Putin's life expectancy may not be all that long.

One problem in our ability to assess performance in this war is that we have two armies that use mostly identical equipment and are equally as determined to spin a story about what is going on, for example we don't really know if a burnt out T-72 is Russian or Ukrainian, I don't believe Russian POW claims of Russia shooting it's own wounded to keep the public at home in the dark as at some point 100000+ troops are going to go home and turn on the lights.

One thing I still think Ukraine should receive and use are long range drones to attack Russian logistics infrastructure in southern Russia, the further back they can expose Russian logistics and put troops on edge the worse their front line performance will be and let's face it who wouldn't smirk at a Hellfire missile damaging the paint work on the Kremlin.