For those of Colorguard...




 
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February 25th, 2005  
cullion
 
 

Topic: For those of Colorguard...


I've seen many colorguards perform, including the Naval Academy, Joint Colorguards, West Point colorguard, and many schools as well. And I myself am our colorguard commander, but, I've noticed many different hand positives. I suppose this is two questions..

1.) What is the proper way of holding your hand on the colors?

2.) What is the way you do it, or prefer it to be done?

(Like I've said, many schools and colorguards do it differently. I'm just wondering how some of you do it. I want something that'll look different and look neat, but not something that is wrong. Seeing as so many colorguards do it differently, and most don't get points deducted, there must be lenient ways on the matter.)
February 25th, 2005  
IAmFighter
 
 
1) I don't think it matters, so long as it's all uniform with all your flag bearers. If one cadet has right over left, then all the flag bearers have to go right over left.

2) My color guard flag bearers usually goes right over left.
February 25th, 2005  
Gorfour20
 

Topic: Re: For those of Colorguard...


Quote:
Originally Posted by cullion
1.) What is the proper way of holding your hand on the colors?
At what position? Carry or order?

Carry by the AFMAN 36-2203 your right hand is on basically where your nose is and arm is at a 90 degree angle parallel to the ground.

Order, taco grip. Basically it

Quote:
Originally Posted by cullion
2.) What is the way you do it, or prefer it to be done?
Refer to Question 1

Thats for my Detachments CG
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February 25th, 2005  
Sea_Cadet
 
I'm in Colorguard hahahahaha
February 27th, 2005  
cullion
 
 
Interesting, Gorfour20. Some of the colorguards at competition do the 90 degree parallel thing. Ours doesn't. We use more like 75 degrees, ish. But, thanks for the help.
February 27th, 2005  
Sea_Cadet
 
ok It's always right over left, the right hand being parallel with your eyes. The Branch/ Unit flag is always dipped to about a 45 degree angle at present arms. And when just carrying the colors, the branch/ unit flag is always dipped about 5 degrees, because it is always lower then the national ensign.
March 1st, 2005  
Gorfour20
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea_Cadet
ok It's always right over left, the right hand being parallel with your eyes. The Branch/ Unit flag is always dipped to about a 45 degree angle at present arms. And when just carrying the colors, the branch/ unit flag is always dipped about 5 degrees, because it is always lower then the national ensign.
Not really....

In Navy rules most likely, but army/air force your left hand does nothing, you're either marching (arm swing) or stationary. The branch/unit/pow/school/etc... flag is ONLY dipped at carry. Per AF Regs the flag bearer(s) not holding the US flag will bring their hand and rotate it 90 degrees. And I have never heard this "dipping" of the flag, can you state the reg on it? I know there is to be no flag raised higher then the US flag except the UN flag. All other nations are at the same level.
March 1st, 2005  
Gorfour20
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cullion
Interesting, Gorfour20. Some of the colorguards at competition do the 90 degree parallel thing. Ours doesn't. We use more like 75 degrees, ish. But, thanks for the help.
Usually its either 90 degrees or 45 degrees, never heard of 75...
March 1st, 2005  
Sea_Cadet
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorfour20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea_Cadet
ok It's always right over left, the right hand being parallel with your eyes. The Branch/ Unit flag is always dipped to about a 45 degree angle at present arms. And when just carrying the colors, the branch/ unit flag is always dipped about 5 degrees, because it is always lower then the national ensign.
Not really....

In Navy rules most likely, but army/air force your left hand does nothing, you're either marching (arm swing) or stationary. The branch/unit/pow/school/etc... flag is ONLY dipped at carry. Per AF Regs the flag bearer(s) not holding the US flag will bring their hand and rotate it 90 degrees. And I have never heard this "dipping" of the flag, can you state the reg on it? I know there is to be no flag raised higher then the US flag except the UN flag. All other nations are at the same level.
well after being instructed by a cadet who went to Honor Guard School, I will listen to him, you a JROTC cadet, do not seem to have the experience. JK, but the left hand is usually at the base of the flag where it is in the harness.
March 1st, 2005  
Gorfour20
 
Nope AFROTC "The real deal" as well as CAP in the past. I just have my major insignia on my avatar. Yea, but Honor Guard school is all well and good but thats word of mouth. I have more experiance then you can imagine here...

Per AFMAN 36-2203 Figure 7.10 "Position of the flag at carry" I don't see left hand doing anything.

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Oh by the way, I was trained by an Air Force MTI with experiance as well as the "Chief's own" Honor Guard. The true task of anyone is competence, listen to your peers but check the source. Go to the manuals and you will become better.