G4S to end Israeli jail contracts within three years.
After that another company will take over. So what's the problem?
Not sure I would put money on that as most high profile companies do not want to get involved with a project that will rock the boat perhaps an Israeli company will but I doubt it will be an international one.
Don't get me wrong I suspect that a lot of companies would go for it if it was not such a controversial task but few boards want to spend their meetings shouting over top of protestors, Israel is becoming a poison chalice for multinationals.
As I have said numerous times no matter what path Israel takes it will always come back to the same question, one state or two, time is on the Palestinians side in this one because as Israel keeps building the less chance there is of a two state solution, the world will not tolerate an apartheid outcome and a non-apartheid Israel can not be a "Jewish" state.
So take that to boys at the next Hasbara and Co meeting because even there it must be dawning on you that you are losing on all fronts, the narrative is now moving inexorably towards that Palestinians.
The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in Israel expanded 3.07 percent in the first quarter of 2014 over the same quarter of the previous year.
Seems your BDS movement has some catching up to do.
The "Palestinians" want a state which includes the Templemount. They won't get that. It is time for the "Palestinians" to tell the truth and that all peace negotiations failed because they did not get the Templemount. Why do you think Abbas suddenly made a deal with Hamas? He was affraid he had to accept a peace deal with Israel because Kerry was going to pressure israel very hard but he also wants the Templemount to be Jewish. Abbas's only way was a deal with Hamas otherwise the world would have known the real inentions of the "Palestinians".
Oh I agree that the BDS still has a long way to go but just think what it will be like when it does achieve its goals and I would suggest that the economic growth of Israel might be somewhat different to the sqatter settlements in the West Bank.
So what you are saying is one state with equal rights for all?
I agree.
You seem to be fixated on the "temple mount" now but unfortunetly for you I am of the opinion that if giving control of the place the Palestinians would put an end to this problem then they can have it but I suspect that as usual you are projecting the problem on to someone else because I am prepared to bet that it hasnt been done because it is Israel that doesn't want to give up.
As I have said the answer is one bi-national state or two independant states, there is no other alternative and if you can not figure that out then you are too stupid to be in this conversation.
We can dance around the niceties all day but that is the reality.
That's speculation. And it's going on from 9 July 2005. So far not much of a succes in reality.
Sure I see no problem with that as long as it is a true democracy one person one vote, majority rule and since the war would be over then of course the right of return would apply in accordance with international law.Under Israeli rule. Still agree?
You are talking to the wrong man I am afraid I would give the Jews and the Muslims the Vatican if I thought it would solve this nonsense, I do not believe in god therefore "holy" sites have no more mystique than Disneyland to me.Why should Jews give up their most holy place for Islam's third holy place (which in fact it isn't because when Muhammad died there was no mosque in Jerusalem). Will the Muslims trade Mecca for the Jews third holiest place? I don't think so.
reality is that the "Palestinians" teach their children to destroy Israel just like islamists and jihadists teach their children to rule the world (worldwide caliphate). If the "Palestinians" would have toild their children the truth a lifetime ago chances are high there would already have been peace.
Martin Luther King Day
King’s words live in Palestinian city
By Dorothy M. Zellner
As a veteran of the 1960s civil rights movement, I hope this year's Martin Luther King Day will be more than the usual constant repetition of his “I have a dream” speech. This has flattened the very essence of the movement, which was the vastness and the vibrancy of hundreds of thousands of “ordinary” people who wouldn’t and couldn’t stand for any more indignities and any more insults.
I know because I was in Georgia, Virginia and Mississippi as a staffer of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee; I spent two years in Atlanta.
This great movement of African-American civilians and their white allies lacked an army or air force, yet we imprinted our freedom demands on the national consciousness for the following decades and presumably, for decades to come.
There are other movements of civil society in every continent of the world. The one I
have seen with my own eyes is the movement of Palestinians resisting Israel's occupation. It may surprise people to know that Palestinians read Dr. King's words and call his name and study the American civil rights movement, among other histories of other peoples, for ways to bring to the attention of the world the fact that little by little, their land is disappearing along with their rights. The center of this effort now is in small West Bank villages like Ni'lin and Bil'in, where non-violent demonstrations have taken place weekly—for years. Yet these non-violent demonstrations of civilians are met with Israeli armed might.
Two weeks ago, I was in Bil'in, a small village about half an hour by bus from Ramallah, which in turn is about a half hour from Jerusalem. I went to attend the funeral of a 36-year-old kindergarten teacher, Jawaher Abu Rahmah, who was killed by American-exported tear gas used by the Israeli army, the IDF, the previous day in a demonstration against the separation barrier erected by the Israelis that divides the villagers from their land.
These demonstrations, which include many progressive Israelis as well as other
internationals, have occurred every week. This Dec. 31 concluded five years of protests in Bil'in. Every Friday, members of this village of 3,000 and their supporters attempt to march to show their opposition to the wall. I say “attempt,” because, as I witnessed on another occasion in another village, the usual procedure is that only moments after the march begins, the IDF begins to hurl tear gas canisters, stink bombs and sound bombs at the protesters.
Although tear gas is normally used for crowd control, the IDF uses it as a weapon and aims canisters directly at the people (Jawaher's brother Bassem was killed nearly two years ago after a high-velocity tear gas canister hit his chest). The adults are unarmed, although young boys, out of frustration at the IDF attacks, often throw stones at the end of the march (to the disapproval of their elders).
I did not go to the demonstration on Dec. 31 in Bil'in because I was afraid of the tear
gas and am at an age where it is impossible for me to run. But I did go to Jawaher's
funeral in the village the next day and stood perhaps 10 yards from where they carried her body on a stretcher to the village graveyard and buried her there.
The killing of this woman was met with evasions and outright lies from the IDF, which disputed the cause of death pronounced by the Palestinian physicians who examined her. As the Israeli columnist Gideon Levy reported, “The IDF initially claimed she was taken to hospital and then sent home, where she died. Then they claimed she was not even at the demonstration. … Finally, the IDF claimed she died of cancer.” As Levy noted, none of this was true.
More civil society actions to highlight Palestinian dispossession are being planned,
probably the most spectacular of which will be the next flotilla planned to take place a few months from now. Ordinary civilians from the U.S. will embark on “The Audacity of Hope,” a U.S.-flagged boat, to sail the Mediterranean and bring the world's attention to the Israeli siege of Gaza. The Israelis have threatened snipers and attack dogs against unarmed people, but ultimately, the worldwide effort to end this siege will succeed. That is because this action is in the spirit of the great civil rights movement 50 years ago and demonstrates the power of ordinary people to withstand whatever armies have in mind for them.
Dorothy M. Zellner is a member of Jews Say No! and an editor of “Hands on the Freedom Plow: Personal Accounts by Women in SNCC.”
Matter of opinion but it is further advanced than South African version was at this stage, you have to remember these things grow in a more exponential way and as you well know when dealing with economics you only really need to stop 10-15% of the income to make a business unprofitable.
Sure I see no problem with that as long as it is a true democracy one person one vote, majority rule and since the war would be over then of course the right of return would apply in accordance with international law.
You are talking to the wrong man I am afraid I would give the Jews and the Muslims the Vatican if I thought it would solve this nonsense, I do not believe in god therefore "holy" sites have no more mystique than Disneyland to me.
The rest of your post isn't worth responding to as you know it is not true it is just the usual Muslim bashing hasbara nonsense.
Change of heart I am going to respond.
Why?
Because leaving it unsaid is tantamount to acquiescing to your views and that would be the worst thing I could do.
You claim Palestinians want to kill Jews and destroy Israel if that is the case then explain Dorothy Zellner a 70 year old Jewish woman who has been to Israel, West Bank and Gaza not less than 10 times in the last since 2002, if as you say Palestinians are teaching their kids to kill Jews why is this woman still alive?
http://www.domlife.org/2011Stories/mlk_zellner.htm
Like it or not it is woman like her that destroy your argument and it is people like her that will bring the change needed to bring this fight to a conclusion, Israel has controlled the narrative for 70 years and I suspect it will lose it entirely within the next 20.
The fact the only fear she had was an inability to run from the IDF due to age says a lot.
South African technology wasn't needed, Israeli is.
According to international law there aren't many that can return.
A "PAlestinian refugee" according to UNRWA is:“persons whose normal place of residence was Palestine during the period 1 June 1946 to 15 May 1948, and who lost both home and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 conflict.
So, anyone younger than 66 cannot be counted as a "Palestinian" refugee.
Then why did you ask the question if you didn't want the answer.But you are not part of the conflict so the holy places do play a major role.
If you can refute the facts I give, you will do it. So, I assume you cannot counter them.
Why does she always come back to Israel? Judea and Samaria are ethnically cleansed of Jews.
One woman can come back, 3 kids didn't.
Or what about this: PLO ambassador says Palestinian state should be free of Jews
Mind you, this is not an individual's opinion, this is a representative of the government!
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