the fact is they always put less emphesis on protection than the western countries, and as a result they built smaller tanks.

You guys need to stop. Was the T-34 the best Tank of WWII no the Panther was the Russians were terified of it and created the T-37/85 to atemp to takel it and were only partialy susesfull. Why was the Panther the Best it followed the T-34 example of heavy sloped armour Desiel Engin wide tracks and Heavy gun but here is the thing it surrpased it with a better gun radio and much better optics. Its problems were that it was not tested properly and due to a complex but very effective design and lack of effective production organisation was not avalibile in the required high numbers. this is were the T-34 comes out on top the design was simplistic due to the limited capaccity of russian factories but this and a near slave like aproch by the work force produced staggering numbers in the same vain as the Sherman (and no one is saying this is a top tank). the best way to look is the Panther was better but the T-34 was avalibile in higher numbers. evidence Kill ratios of Panthers V T-34/85s (as have comparibile gins crews & both (mostly) had Radios) the French and I think the Cechz used the Panther after the war and I think at some point some on in the Middle East had some. The Designs of the Centurion and (to a lesser degree) The Pershing compare fovoribily with both however they to have a better gun than the T-34 and all had Radios (Both theses Vehicals were WWII designs and were on the battle fronts before the war ended however the Centurion saw no combat as war ended befor Front line Issue). Oh and the effective ness of these Tanks in Korea were all 3 saw action show the T-34 to be Weeker due to gun and lake of Radios (in part). The best Tank today is the Leporde 2A6 followed by the Challenger 2 then the M1A2 / Mercave 4. Leporde has best balance of all requirements the Challenger is second for same resone (The reson it is so often forgoten is the fire control system in the old one was so bad and relibility WAS poor) the MI is third as it uses so much Gas and that is a Problem (eg in Iraq a totaly hopless Iraqi army smashed a Number of Supply Trains for M1s a half organised one could criple them) and the mercave its to slow and yes I appriceate it was designed for a diffrent war and thats why its here. All these Vehicals Now (2A6 recintly entered) fall with in the Titile of must heavily armoured Tanks in service they have good power to wait ratios Very Effective opptics and Very Very good reliability and combat effective/suvibility Rates. the Russian stuff even today blows up real easy and lacks the Tacktical mobility of the Big 4 look at Chettchnia and Gergia also Sudan. S o if I was the One getting shot at ether of these 4 would do but the Chalenger due to the Fact it Took a Huge Ied to penitrate the armour and that previouse crews have walked away from disabiled ones after combat in Iraq would put on Top of list

LOL, what do you base this brilliant analesys on? Did you fire at each tank and see what happen? This thread was dead for a good reason.

Oh, and we dont have to stop, we can do what ever we want.

On the pictures isn't T-95 Is a "Object 640" Black Eagle...and he better, but there are only 1 unit
Also I like Challenger 2...but i don't understand why theу have rifled cannon ?

Agreed. I, too, am puzzled by the Challenger II's rifled cannon. I mean, smoothbore seems to be very popular with today's youth, so...

קודם כל עם הסמל של הצנפים בטח שאין לך מושג מה הסיפור עם התותח החרוק....

Rifled guns have higher acucracy in ammunition that is not stabelized by fins. The british are big fans of the Squash(HESH/HEP) round and the squash is not fin stabelized. The same is true for the WP(White Phosphurous) rounds. At least it was true, I dont know what wierd ammunition is out there for 120 right now. Lets not forget that the British were the first to field 120mm guns on tanks, specifically on the Chieftain, and that 120 was rifled...

קודם כל עם הסמל של הצנפים בטח שאין לך מושג מה הסיפור עם התותח החרוק....

Its not fair. Translate...(

Now I would translate, but I imagine Sherman posted it in Hebrew on purpose, so unless he gives me the OK to do so, translating would be rude.

At any rate, thanks for the info, Sherman. Glad to learn

Hey, I thought we were English only

lol he's a paratrooper leave him be