Teaching Johnny about Islam, but not Christianity

It seems that we all mean the same, more or less. Talking and educating about foreign religions is alright. But stressing and over-emphasizing this is crossing the line.
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If they cant teach about domestic ones they sure as heck shouldnt teach foreign ones.
 
Yep, leave it to California to come up with so contrary and ridiculous. Hey, how many motions have there been in Hollywood to secede from the State and the USA when things weren't going the way certain folks wanted to. I believe it was the city of Berkley that passed a resolution disallowing any US military planes from overflying their city if they were going to be participating in the war in Afghanistan.

As long as we have the super-liberal Californians, we can always say with pride: :stupid:
 
Actualy about half of California is still pretty conservative or moderate conservative.

Northern Cal, is mostly Democrat and ultra-liberal (leftwing), with San Fransisco and all those dope smoking counties.

Southern Cal, usually swings to the Republican and conservative vote (except for LA and Hollywood areas). Orange and San Diego counties are mostly conservative leaning.

SF is probably the most ultra-liberal area in the US, while Orange County is probably one of the most conservative. Stark contrast. Not to mention Orange County is a very family freindly area to live in, SF is very family unfriendly.

If you take a look at the California, Northern Cal has very little industry, few jobs. Southern Cal massive industry, plentiful jobs. Its not hard to figure out why, the difference in phylosophy does make a difference in the economy of the same state. I guess those in Northern Cal are too busy smoking dope and thinking of creating somekind of socialist paradise that they forgot to get somekind of economy going.

What swings the vote in national elections is the large population centers of LA and SF.

The court case regarding this happened in SF.
 
Californians really don't care that much, i come from the state and i've seen it all around me. Think about it, we're consistenly a democratic state in the presidential elections and both are senators are democrats. But our governor is a republican, a hollywood movie star republican, but he is one none the less. This state is pretty weird because it's like a microcosm of the american political spectrum and all its complexities. I live in LA county in Glendale where there are a lot of mid eastern immigrants. I have no idea which ones are republicans and which are dems, most don't care much. Voter turnout for our city council elections was 20,000 in a city of 200,000, that's pretty bad.

Overall i'd say we're more liberal leaning but not was much as washington state for example. The counties on the coast are blue, the interior ones are red, idk why the hell that is. But SF is an important naval area so there's a large military presence there and i don't hear anything about them having trouble. Plus berkeley isn't very important for flights being on the other side of the bay away from the ocean. That city is full of students and hippies with no where to go, so what do you expect. SF itself has industry but it's surrounded by agricultural regions compared to the wasteland of LA that is made out of concrete perfect for industry.

I live in a weird state, so one of these days i wish to move away and go to one of the smaller cities on the coast and just not have to deal with the nonsense so much.

Btw, the whole kid learning about islam seems pretty weird to me because of how much effort they're spending on it. How about this, teach him MATH. I think cultural diverisity is great, but for god's sake our nation's schools need to focus on math and science or we'll be in the bottom of the IQ bucket someday. And english, even native born blonde hair kids can't use that language correctly, now that's scary
 
Now, Major if you were to further expound on this line and tell us that these "hard workers" you know are in fact the elected officials of California it would go a long way towards explaining this state to the rest of the nation.
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Nah, the officials are just on steroids to help bulk up more for re-election..Hahaha...Never thought I would use 'roids and election in the same sentence like that...LOL
 
Every country needs a province/ state that one can hate in dire times and can walk away with when the winds of fortune are upon them! What would the US be without the glam of California? Who would equalize on the balance for all those on the extreem other end of the spectrum? Live and let live and peace to the world!
 
People should learn as much about Islam and Xtianity as possible so they can make sound evaluations and question whether they really want to be part of either religion.
 
bulldogg said:
Now, Major if you were to further expound on this line and tell us that these "hard workers" you know are in fact the elected officials of California it would go a long way towards explaining this state to the rest of the nation.
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Sorry, but they aren't. Most of them have manual labor jobs, not political ones.
 
I sent my boys to a catholic school even though We are protestant.
That way R.E will focus on christianity with only a brief introduction to islam.
If the school did more than that I wouldn't allow them to attend.
I'm sure parents can make that choice .n U.S.also
 
sven hassell said:
I sent my boys to a catholic school even though We are protestant.
That way R.E will focus on christianity with only a brief introduction to islam.
If the school did more than that I wouldn't allow them to attend.
I'm sure parents can make that choice .n U.S.also
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Catholic schools generally cost a lot of money, not everyone can afford to send their children. Public education is a right, and there's no reason there needs to be a focus on ANY religion, esp. after the fits they threw about children praying in the morning before class begins. Basically, they're saying religion is okay in school as long as it isn't Christianity.
 
PJ24 said:
Catholic schools generally cost a lot of money, not everyone can afford to send their children. Public education is a right, and there's no reason there needs to be a focus on ANY religion, esp. after the fits they threw about children praying in the morning before class begins. Basically, they're saying religion is okay in school as long as it isn't Christianity.
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I think this pretty much nails it on the head... as long as it isn't christianity its okay. The more I read abuot this the more I agree and I think it is part of the self-loathing of the WASP at the root of it all. I still get more than a little pissed when I dwell too long on the removal of the Pledge of Allegiance and "moment of silence" at the start of each day. Pandering to the myriad of divergent views does not strengthen our country but apparently it does buy votes.
 
PJ24 said:
Catholic schools generally cost a lot of money, not everyone can afford to send their children. Public education is a right, and there's no reason there needs to be a focus on ANY religion, esp. after the fits they threw about children praying in the morning before class begins. Basically, they're saying religion is okay in school as long as it isn't Christianity.
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So you have to pay to send your kids to school then?
Or are your catholic schools like our public(wierd term as their private)schools like Eton etc... where the upper classes are trained( often in the art of thinking they're better than everyone else and indulging in homosexual practices).
Can you not choose which school to send your kids to without large costs?
Also can you not change school policies by becoming parent govenors easily?
 
This is one of the things that is a strange play on words between our countries Sven. In the USA public schools are free as they are funded from local property taxes. Private schools, of which Catholic schools are one kind, are fee for service and tend to be quite pricey. Some school districts have some element of choice built into them but only in so much as you choose from the various public schools of that district. Very few have a "voucher" system whereby you can choose any school and the tax money that normally funds your child's education is given to you to pay for tuition but it never covers the cost of a private school and makes them still cost prohibitive while maintaining the political illusion of giving you a "real choice". As for changing school policy you can only change it as so long as you are elected to the school board and then all policies must fall within federal, state and local legislation and judicial rulings. So yes you can and no you can't.
 
:jump: Thanks for the info Bulldog.I can for ONCE say that there is something in the U.K.(our school system) which is better than the U.S. system.
It must be hard to raise kids in the U.S. as I for one wouldn't want my kids going to a school that had gang members or stuff like that in it so probably would have to pay a small fortune.(or I'd educate them at home).
What are the public schools like? Are they rough?
 
It's easy to understand the nature of public schools, they're a reflection of their community. If a community is well to do, there few problems with the violence in schools if any. If the schools are in the middle of poor minority areas, expect them to be a little tougher. The high school i went to had lots of ethnic diversity and everyone got along well enough. The idiots of some immigrant groups fight the idiots of other immigrant groups occasionally, but everyone loses since they're dumbasses anyway. No one felt unsafe though, if anything my school was a little paranoid on safety.

And on the private schools, it doesn't matter what school you send your kid to unless they themselves want to learn and achieve better grades. Perfect example: my friend went to public school with me until his mother pulled him out and sent him to a costly catholic school that had cheaper tuition if you were catholic, but they lied. He spent 3 years there and really did no better than if he went to public schools because he really didn't care that much about the subjects he was being taught. The whole vouchers thing here in the states doesn't solve anything since it starts with the parents encouraging the students to learn, the teachers and school can only help.
 
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