Tax Dollars Go To Pay ACLU

I simply cannot understand why some people are so anti-ACLU. I don't agree with every cause they support (like nazi skinheads), but whether you agree with it or not the fundimental role of the ACLU is the protection of American Civil Rights as guarenteed by the Constitution from the predetary nature of government. I find that honorable.

As for Funding most of the ALCU funding comes from donations from big foundations such as Ford, Rockefeller, Carniegie and a dozen or so others.

The ACLU doesnt recieve money from govornment EXCEPT in government liability cases. For example, In 1994-2003 Kentucky was forced to pay the ACLU legal costs when it passed a restrictive anti-abortion and state religion laws. The laws were struck down in the courts.

I would also say that the ACLU is picky about the cases it fights as it can be held liable for any 'frivilous' lawsuits.

Read more here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_Liberties_Union#Funding
 
mmarsh said:
I would also say that the ACLU is picky about the cases it fights as it can be held liable for any 'frivilous' lawsuits.
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I wouldn't say that at all, the ACLU while not a completely "evil" organization (they have done some good), is all about getting press time. They'll take any case that will be sensationalized.

They're a catch 22 org.
 
I like the ACLU there whistleblowers to extreme government stupdity, and when there not doing that there supporitng stupid people.
 
PJ24 said:
I wouldn't say that at all, the ACLU while not a completely "evil" organization (they have done some good), is all about getting press time. They'll take any case that will be sensationalized.

They're a catch 22 org.
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Not completely evil I will agree with. Perhaps only 99.9% evil.

Anytime I hear about the ACLU it is generally some stupid person having done something stupid and now they are screaming foul play. They try to fry whatever person/entity is the cause of this "foul play". Giving not only that person/entity a bad name but glamorizing the idea that anyone can have anything their way if they scream loud enough.

Granted they have done some good works. But in the past decade I can not think of a single one off the top of my head.

Perhaps better informed forum members can educate me?
 
I stopped taking the ACLU seriously after they tried to have the city of LA change their seal because it had a "religious" icon on it (I forgot whether it was a cross or the word "God"). I just couldn't believe some fruity group would try to change the seal of a city that has stood for several decades and is one of the US's largest cities. I saw that icon as a representation of the city's history and heritage. No one had a problem with it except for them and about 200 petitioners. What really pissed me off was that this was done during a time in which oil prices were on the rise and CA was undergoing the whole power crisis problem. Changing the seal would have meant the city of LA would have to foot the bill of about $33 million to change the seals on all their official docs. Frivolous I tell ya...
 
Can foreigners join ACLU? It looks like a great place to work..... if you have loads of imaginative powers like me. I reckon I'd be great :)!!!
 
You might as well, their agenda is about as un-American as most terrorists'.
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They have done some good, but I have to agree with Marinerhodes that 99.9% of what they do is bollocks. For everytime I hear of them doing something worthwhile there are ten times I hear of things that make me audibly groan if not curse.
 
Hahahahahahaha you're just too funny Bulldogg!!! But I am too structured and punctual for mediteranian employers. So I only work the North-Western part of Europe. But my boss could be Italian as far as I know, his metophors are just like Berlusconi & Co. :)
 
Ted said:
Wow... I think I would fit in perfectly. My boss says the same about me hahahahaha
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Some of the people I know and deal with it is about 1/100 they do the right thing. The rest of the time I am left scratching my head or yelling myself hoarse.
 
Eehhh, are you like a drunk hanging to a street-light Hahahahahaa, I just love Italian metaphors!! :)
 
Hi Ted, that was actually what the leader of the left called Berlusconi on their second tv debate the other night. The metaphor was originally by Jack Lang.
 
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HAhahahaha, I thought it was very funny! Great show... real entertainment. Not much good for a political debate, but certainly family entertainment. I wish we had more of that in Holland :)

p.s. Doesn't Mussolini have some great grand daughter that could pick up the gauntlet and make Italian politics into an even better soap?
 
"Not much good for a political debate but certainly family entertainment", yeah go and tell him to the leader of the left who used those words.

As far as Alessandra Mussolini, yes, she's Mussolini's great grand-daughter and she leads a tiny party (0.6% according to more recent polls). It is on the far right side of the political spectrum and she says it has nothing to do with fascism. It is a "social right" party, as we call it. Actually closer to socialist ideas than any other party of the right.
Do not forget that Berlusconi can do without this 0.6 % of her votes, while Prodi (the left) could never think of winning without the 12-15 % of its two Communist parties in the coalition. So who's more extreme? Hehe.
 
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That is just a matter of opinion.The communists aren't the best of leaders in an international Europe. But the right wing has it's own flaws too. I am more and more in the centre where most of our political issues are debated and the solutions are doable.All the rethorics brushed aside, all parties will have to have the blessing from the opposition. Otherwise they won't last long in the political arena.

I hear that the Mussolini woman is actually good looking, is that true?
 
I wasn't drawing a comparison between the Communists and the extreme right, I highlighted how a leader who gets support from a 10-15 % of hardcore communist votes is more extreme than one who gets support from a o.6 % of far-right votes (out of a total 48-50 %).

This is Alessandra Mussolini, she's not like a supermodel but she used to be an actress:

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You can find "more interesting" pictures of her from when she was an actress by googling up her name.
 
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