Shall we see if we can this going, despite being so few active members here.

Sure, the Panther was a much better tank than the Panzer IV, but I think the Germans had been better off if they hadn't developed so many different vehicles. They should perhaps stayed with the panther and maybe the jagd panther instead of spending resources on a lot and getting quite few vehicles in comparison to what the Russians and the West Allies produced

Originally Posted by I3BrigPvSk

Shall we see if we can this going, despite being so few active members here.

Sure, the Panther was a much better tank than the Panzer IV, but I think the Germans had been better off if they hadn't developed so many different vehicles. They should perhaps stayed with the panther and maybe the jagd panther instead of spending resources on a lot and getting quite few vehicles in comparison to what the Russians and the West Allies produced

One thing I would recommend when comparing the performance of the Pz-IV is to look at the late model Pz-IVs such as the Ausf H-J models and you will see the shortcomings of Pz-IV, in late models they were shoehorning as many upgrades as they could at the expense of armour.

So I agree the Germans should have simplified their production lines with fewer vehicle types and in terms of combat vehicles I think they should have focused entirely on the Panther as its MB, maintained production of the Pz-IV chassis to produce the Jadgpanzer and STuG-IV.

Originally Posted by MontyB

One thing I would recommend when comparing the performance of the Pz-IV is to look at the late model Pz-IVs such as the Ausf H-J models and you will see the shortcomings of Pz-IV, in late models they were shoehorning as many upgrades as they could at the expense of armour.

So I agree the Germans should have simplified their production lines with fewer vehicle types and in terms of combat vehicles I think they should have focused entirely on the Panther as its MB, maintained production of the Pz-IV chassis to produce the Jadgpanzer and STuG-IV.

Plus you had 2 companies making Tigers and they wern't the same design. Lack of standardization.