Sweden vs Israel?

Spartacus said:
I dont know if we can say that they pulled out because of the muslims in-county. I mean, france stayed in... and they (if i am correct) have a higher percentage of muslims than sweden. It seems like theres another reason, but I dont know what it is.

Perhaps lingering influences from the Soviet Union? They didn't exactly have any love for Israel. But who can blame them? Israel took the best that America had to offer them (at times this meant second hand equipment) and they dominated the Arabs on land and in the air who were armed with the best equipment the Soviet Union had to offer them. Then on top of that the Israeli's crushed the best Soviet pilots who were sick of seeing the Arabs blow it and wanted to show them how to do it right.

Other than that it does appear that Sweden is pandering to Muslims, a lot.
 
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It is a wise decision by Sweden to appease the cancer within. It is not popular, nor is it in line with popular sentiment but they have a potential enemy within their borders that could cause massive destabilisation so they are choosing the route most politically expedient.

Politics, nothing more, nothing less.
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Sweden had a socialist goverment for the last 90 years. The right wing had only been in the power for very short periods of time. Remember that the leftist in Europe are VERY anti-Israel and anti-USA
 
Corocotta said:
Sweden had a socialist goverment for the last 90 years. The right wing had only been in the power for very short periods of time. Remember that the leftist in Europe are VERY anti-Israel and anti-USA
Same as in Spain uh? :(
 
Liberials, Communists, Socialists, and American Democrats agree.

The USA and Israel are evil.


As I said, what a shame that Sweden wants to side with the enemy. But hey, that's life. And when WWIII reall kicks off. I guess there might be another nation of my list of enemies.
 
Italian Guy said:
Same as in Spain uh? :(

Well, Spain had a "fascist" (it was not really fascist, but extreme right) during 39 years. Once democracy arrived the socialist have been in power for 14 years and the right wing for 11.
 
Corocotta said:
Well, Spain had a "fascist" (it was not really fascist, but extreme right) during 39 years. Once democracy arrived the socialist have been in power for 14 years and the right wing for 11.

Though your left doesn't have strong communist background like ours here. Good for you.
 
Sorry...

they were VERY influenciated by the USSR. Actually during the civil war they got money, weapons, troops and advisors from Lennin. The Spanish leader of the PSOE in that timen was called Largo Caballero, also known as the Spanish Lennin.

During Franco regime there were no leftist parties in Spain (at least legal parties). But our new president (Zapatero) declares him self as "rojo", wich in spanish means red, wich means...... Comunist.
 
Sucks. It's a common conception overhere that the Spanish left is less extreme than ours.
Though I know about Zap not standing up when US flag passes or your foreign affairs secretary being anti-Israeli.
 
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They are quite radical. And now we have the 11 M terrorist attack...I know it might sound crazy, but the PSOE has a lot to hide concerning this massacre.
 
Well, as you might know this attack ocurre 3 days before the election. When a crime is comitted the first thing you have to ask your self in order to solve the problem is: Who get profits with this?

- PSOE: they won the elections after acussing to the PP of being indirect responsible of the masacre. It been discovered that PSOEimportant militan (member of the secret services) had relation with some of the suicidals.

- ETA: with Aznar they were almost gone (with US help) Now we have a weak goverment that is trucing with them, and they are probably gonna get the independance, and the freedom for the terrorist in jail. Do not forget that ETA declared the truce after Catalunya was declear.d a nation.


Every thing is relationated: 11 M + ETA truce + New political order in Spain (Catalunya is now a natio, after comes the Basque country and then Andalucia and then the rest of Spain) We are in a revolucionary process
 
Following you, though I'm always little inclined towards cospirationism.
But yeah I must admit I jokingly thought the real deal behind 3/11 was a Zapatero-Al Qaeda agreement. they both had to gain from the attacks. But then again it's just a thought. Unprovable.
 
IG, it is been proved that Al-Quaeda had NOTHING to do with this attack. The reivindication video is fake. All the deteinees were police informers.

I have opened a debate about this in the political area: "Madrid train bombing". I wrote a 2 page introduction with a very small resume of all the info that we have now in Spain. I will love to continue there.
 
Spain and communism goes way back. My family fought them during the Spanish Civil War. My Grandfather's two cousins fought for Franco as Fascists. Hell, after the war they enlisted in the Spanish Blue Division. A German army division that fought on the Eastern Front against the communist Soviet Union.

Currently South America is in a political ression toward social-communism. Brazil, Chile, Venezuela, Argentina, Colombia, Ecuador, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Guatemala, and Mexico.

Samething in many African Nations. The Red Threat is by no means gone and done with when the Soviet Union fell. Red China has filled up that void very nicely and the idea of social-communism isn't dead either. Many Colleges and Universties still preach it daily. Look at America's Universties and you'll see what I mean. The Leftest of the world are growning in number.
 
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