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May 5th, 2015  
MontyB
 
 

Topic: surrender order issued by Hitler’s successor


Nazi surrender order issued by Hitler’s successor expected to fetch nearly $40K at auction


Rob Crilly, The Telegraph | April 28, 2015 | Last Updated: Apr 28 8:54 AM


AP Photo/str,File The May 18, 1944 file photo shows then German Chancellor Adolf Hitler, left, shaking hands with German Interior Minister and head of the SS, Heinrich Himmler, somewhere in Germany. From left to right; Hitler, Minister Field Marshal Wilhelm Keitel, Admiral Karl Doenitz, Himmler and Field Marshal General Erhard Milch.




A surrender order issued by Adolf Hitler’s successor in the final days of the Second World War is being auctioned this week for up to $36,000.
The typed dispatch was sent by Admiral Karl Doenitz at 10:40 p.m. on May 8 informing his commanders that the war was over and that all hostilities were to cease.
“Effective immediately, no maritime vehicle or aeroplane shall be sunk or destroyed, no military equipment may be damaged in any way,” he wrote, warning that failure to comply would bring punitive action from the Allies.
While the Nazis burned and destroyed their paper records, one copy of the historic order survived in the pocket of Field Marshall Robert Ritter von Greim, head of the Luftwaffe. It is owned by a private collector and will be auctioned at Bonhams in New York on Wednesday.


Doenitz had been head of the German navy and was Hitler’s choice to lead the Nazis after the dictator committed suicide on April 30. Although he promised to fight on, the veteran seaman knew he controlled only a few square miles close to the Danish border. Instead, he tried to ensure his forces surrendered to the British and Americans rather than the Russians in the East.
The recovered telex — strips of ticker tape pasted on to a piece of card — was sent to a Munich airbase, code-named Robinson 5. Tom Lamb, an expert in military history at Bonhams, said very few examples of telexed orders had survived.
“Doenitz was very well aware that the game was up,” he said. “There was no way either that he could retain control or that the German nation could get back into this war.”
The orders were received by Von Greim, who took over the Luftwaffe after Hitler accused Hermann Goering of treason. Von Greim was arrested in Austria on May 8, with the telex in his pocket. He was to be handed to the Soviets but committed suicide by swallowing a cyanide pill.
The telex is among hundreds of Second World War lots on sale at Bonhams.




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May 6th, 2015  
tetvet
 
NAZISM was comic opera that went bad with all the strutting and saluting the montage of Uniforms , today one wonders how it was taken seriously .
May 6th, 2015  
Yossarian
 
 
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Originally Posted by tetvet
NAZISM was comic opera that went bad with all the strutting and saluting the montage of Uniforms , today one wonders how it was taken seriously .

Because the secret police would make you disappear if you didn't'.
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May 6th, 2015  
MontyB
 
 
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Originally Posted by tetvet
NAZISM was comic opera that went bad with all the strutting and saluting the montage of Uniforms , today one wonders how it was taken seriously .
I am not sure how you can draw those conclusions living in a country that craves symbolism and uniforms.

Now I am not for a second comparing modern USA with Naziism as they are poles apart however the level of conformity to ideology and acquiescence to authority no matter how unreasonable it may be are good indicators as to what it takes for people to take ideologies such as Naziism seriously.
May 6th, 2015  
tetvet
 
Germany was a war waiting to happen the penalties dumped on Germany by the league of Nations was FAR in excess of what Germany could do .
May 6th, 2015  
JOC
 
 
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Originally Posted by tetvet
NAZISM was comic opera that went bad with all the strutting and saluting the montage of Uniforms , today one wonders how it was taken seriously .
This statement is wrong. Nazism represented one of the most militaristic societies in the history of mankind. The pageantry helped to further the Nazi goal of everything of for the state, nothing for the individual. Hitler merely expounded on the already strong German tradition of German militarism. The Uniforms, rally's and ceremony's were all critical in getting the people marching to the beat of Hitler's militaristic drums in preparation for a war of conquest. And lets face it he conquered the majority of Europe which was the still cultural center of the world at that time.

From the outlook of the modern average American it may look over done, not to the people in 1930-40's Germany. As much as I personally hate Hitler, he may have been the best orator of all time. He mesmerized the masses. Most of these same people glad fully flew the swastika even at wars end.
May 6th, 2015  
tetvet
 
I don't mind being corrected if I err in a statement , Hitler didn't become a great orator because he was a natural he had an instructor who showed him the hand gestures and what not , Nazism took root not because of what Hitler did but because of what Europe didn't do .
May 6th, 2015  
JOC
 
 
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Originally Posted by tetvet
I don't mind being corrected if I err in a statement , Hitler didn't become a great orator because he was a natural he had an instructor who showed him the hand gestures and what not , Nazism took root not because of what Hitler did but because of what Europe didn't do .
Weather Hitler learned the technique of oration or was gifted orator doesn't matter. He was a great orator in a way few have been and moved the masses (millions) with his speeches. He used this tool to help effectively persuade Germany to follow him.
It is true that at an early point perhaps in 1936 or earlier England and France could have possible stopped him had they been so inclined. However you could second guess anything and have a possible alternate outcome. What if Nikita Khrushchev didn't back down during the Cuban missile crisis. What if MacArthur had used Atomic bombs on China during the Korean war? There is no end to these what if scenario's.
 


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