Supreme Court to Consider D.C. Handgun Ban - Page 2




 
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Boots
 
November 24th, 2007  
Gator
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 5.56X45mm
and my AR-15 ready to go just in case.

I dare you.... just try it.
November 24th, 2007  
mmarsh
 
 
Does anyone find the timing of this just a tad suspicious? This is a major hot button issue and the ruling is set for just 4 months before a US presidential election.

I thought after 2000 the SCOTUS promised not to interfere in Presidential politics anymore?
November 24th, 2007  
Gator
 
 
I believe it is a good case for the Court to pick up, at any time.
Although, I do not understand why the District chose to Appeal the case to begin with, as the D.C. Circuit ruling was sound, in my own opinion, but, more importantly, I also believe the District Government has no legal standing to exist at all, as the Constitution places sole control of the District of Columbia in the hands of the United States Congress.

I see the Right to Keep and Bear as carved in stone, and not a Militia only Right as the Militia is covered in other sections of the Constitution, the Founders, in my opinion, not needing to expressly state that the Militia only can keep and use Weapons in the Second Amendment.

I believe it is high time for the USSC to put the States (and in this case the District) in their place and force them to extend a Constitutionally protected right to all Citizens.
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Boots
November 25th, 2007  
5.56X45mm
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gator
I dare you.... just try it.
If there is a general gun ban and round up you bet your ass I'll be fighting for my rights.
November 25th, 2007  
Gator
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 5.56X45mm
If there is a general gun ban and round up you bet your ass I'll be fighting for my rights.
If the Supreme Court adversely rules from your wanted outcome, and there is a Round-Up, you will have no Rights in the matter.

I for one do not see an USSC outcome like that, anything close to it, but, in any event, I do believe your Terrorist Actions would end the same as it was last time Traitors in the South tried to destroy the United States of America.
November 26th, 2007  
A Can of Man
 
 
Like I said. If they overrule the constitution and place a ban on the right to bear arms, that would be a dangerous precedent where other constitutional rights could be overruled.
November 26th, 2007  
mmarsh
 
 
Its funny how people keep saying 'overrule the constitution'. The job of the USSC is to interpret the constitution. If they rule the gun ban is constitutional it means they view the 2nd Amendment the way the Founding fathers wanted it to be interpreted.

Just because YOUR OPINION of the 2nd Amendment doesn't match a Supreme Courts ruling doesn't mean they overruled anything. That why we have a USSC, to make these types of decisions. They are the referee of US politics. Therefore its their opinion that counts, not yours.

BTW most legal scholars I read say the court is likely to rule the ban unconstitutional due to the fact its a CONSERVATIVE court. But that no legal argument is 100% foolproof and that neither side should be certain of success. Just remember, that if they uphold the ban, you cannot really blame the left, can you? I suspect the USSC, will come to a sort of compromise. As a ruling one way or other runs the risk of being overturned by a future USSC.

Besides this case is about STATE/CITY law to restrict guns not FEDERAL. Even if the court does decide the local Government has the right to ban guns it doesn't mean it will. And even if your township decides to ban guns the solution is very simple: Move elsewhere. The people of Washington DC/New York/and in certain places in California have made it clear: They don't want guns in their communities. Strikes me as unreasonable to force people to accept guns on a population that doesn't want them, just like its unreasonable to force gun control on a people who do.

And if anyone is really foolish enough to take up arms against the United States simply because they disagree with that ruling, how long do you think you would last? The fact is, you would be a red smear on the pavement faster than it took you to finish reading this message. You can count on that.
November 26th, 2007  
A Can of Man
 
 
How would you like it if they start to "interpret" the first amendment quite differently from the way you see it?
November 26th, 2007  
Chief Bones
 
 

Topic: NOT YOUR JOB ...


Quote:
Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
How would you like it if they start to "interpret" the first amendment quite differently from the way you see it?
As -MM- said ...

You can conjecture all you want ... BUT IT ISN'T YOUR JOB TO INTERPRET THE CONSTITUTION - it is NOT for 'you' to say what any amendment means.

It is the job of SCOTUS to look at ANY law or piece of legislation that is brought before it, and interpret it in accordance with THEIR view of how it 'jibes' with the constitution.

IF they view it as being in violation of the constitution, then it is 'struck down' .

IF they find it is in accordance with their view of the constitution, then it is 'upheld'.

By the way, that is what they are supposed to do (and that's in the constitution also).

The Legislature Branch writes the laws, the Courts interpret the law and the Executive Branch enforces the law.

It is part and parcel of the checks and balance that is built into our government.
November 26th, 2007  
mmarsh
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
How would you like it if they start to "interpret" the first amendment quite differently from the way you see it?
I would grit my teeth and accept it. The SCOTUS has already made rulings I thought were wrong, The "imminent domain" ruling for example. I see that ruling as far more dangerous than the right to ban guns, but do you see me calling for armed rebellion in the street? Nope.
 


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