Super Cavitation countermeasures?

Finnman1988

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What methods of countering the Super Cavitation are there ready and if they have been ready since when and what methods are on research but not ready yet?

Where there any ready countermeasures during the last caribbean crisis when Russia brought its fleet to caribbea?

Has there been any other situations when Russians have brought their fleet to other countries water areas and if have has there been any methods of countering the SuperCavitation technology.

P.S. When I ask countering the SuperCavitation I also mean the ships themselves moving with SuperCavitation not just the projectiles.

Thanks in advance.
 
I guess I took a wrong word when I said ship, I meant navy vehicles in general (Including submarines, surface vessels, etc.).

I was just thinking that aren't submarines at least capable of supercavitation movement, so what countermeasures are there for these kind of vessels capable of supercavitation movement?

When you said that turning is a countermeasure to supercavitation torpedo do you mean these more advanced supercavitation torpedoes I am referring to the german Barracuda.

I think the Barracuda is that fast enough that it can dodge the Russian counterparts and reach russian vessel directly without first consuming the incoming counterprojectiles.

I think in order to remain safely away from the supercavitating vessels think these barracudas are to be dropped from a safe distance with a fasst enough aircraft to stay in a safe distance from the enemy supercavitating torpedoes and supercavitating vessels.

That's at least what I can come up with as a countermeasure against the superior numbers of the russian supercavitaing vessels and torpedoes.

I've also read about an acoustic countermeasure against supercavitating torpedoes but I don't know how working it is against supercavitating vessels.

These are the only countermeasures I can come up against the russian supercavitating vessels and torpedoes.
 
What methods of countering the Super Cavitation are there ready and if they have been ready since when and what methods are on research but not ready yet?
To counter any weapon detection and tracking are required. Super-cavitating torpedoes greatly complicate this process. I know of no projected effective counter-measure to this weapon.

Easy way to counter a supercav torpedo. Turn.
The whole idea of the cavitating torpedo is to launch it close enough that effective counter-measures will not be effective. But, in doing so the sub would reveal its position. The escorts would use their active sonars and the sub would be in trouble. This is a noisy weapon.

I was just thinking that aren't submarines at least capable of supercavitation movement, so what countermeasures are there for these kind of vessels capable of supercavitation movement?
That is their propeller ONLY! Subs don't want it for it is noisy and makes the sub easy to detect at long ranges.

I think in order to remain safely away from the supercavitating vessels think these barracudas are to be dropped from a safe distance with a fasst enough aircraft to stay in a safe distance from the enemy supercavitating torpedoes and supercavitating vessels.
I have a few questions as to what you are referring to... experimental patrol craft such as the, Experimental (X-Craft) Sea Fighter which uses small-waterplane-area twin-hull (SWATH) design, USN Sea Shadow, the catarmaran HSU-X1, the Stiletto Experimental ship with carbon fiber M-hull design, or the Norwegian patrol craft, the Skjold class, etc.?
Also, are you talking a modern day TBF Avenger type attack?? A plane that approaches at low altitude to about 10 miles to the target, drops its super-cavitating torpedo and, run away? A modern air defense will eat up this attack plane.

Where there any ready countermeasures during the last caribbean crisis when Russia brought its fleet to caribbea?
Are you talking about the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962? This chapter in the history of the US Navy, it had most of the advantages. The USN was the only navy that had SSBN subs. The entire US Navy's Atlantic fleet was available for this possible conflict. It was also the first chapter of the SOSUS and, it detected four of the five Soviet SSKs sent to escort the cargo ships headed for Cuba. The USN used active sonars and pinged the the SSKs until they surfaced to re-charge their batteries. The fifth SSK was not detected until it surface before it entered Havana's harbor.

Assuming a speed of 250mph for the Shkval-E (with a conventional warhead) to a target at a distance of 10-mi., the target has about 2½-minutes to maneuver safely away from the torpedo. Against a destroyer that is too much time but, against a carrier now that is another story.

I am happy to hear General Dynamics is working on a high speed torpedo for the USN. As always, the USN is trying to do things in a super-duper way, a lower speed torpedo (≈100mph) but, very controllable and, counter-measure resistant.
 
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Assuming a speed of 250mph for the Shkval-E (with a conventional warhead) to a target at a distance of 10-mi., the target has about 2½-minutes to maneuver safely away from the torpedo. Against a destroyer that is too much time but, against a carrier now that is another story.

Against a DDG, yes, that torpedo would be useless. I would argue, though, that against a CVN, which has pretty incredibly maneuverability for its size, it would be equally useless.

I know nothing about the Barracuda torpedo, but it seems like an immense technical challenge to be able to self-guide a weapon like that: the supercavitation "bubble" would cause issues with an integral sonar. You'd have to wire-guide it, which means that you could follow the very noisy torpedo right back to the sub that launched it.
 
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