STUPID MILITARY LOSSES




 
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Boots
 
June 8th, 2004  
TankGeneral
 

Topic: STUPID MILITARY LOSSES


What is the stupidest military loss
June 8th, 2004  
AFSteliga
 
 
I don't follow. What do you mean by 'stupidest military loss'?
June 9th, 2004  
Marksman
 
 
You can say that you have most stupid loses in medival time.Then the battles were fought mostly cuz of money,so one day brits and french meet on the field to commence the battle.Brits with archers to man to arms ratio 10/1 and french all knights in unpenetrable armor for brits arows.
So brits outnumberd fired the arows
but without any demage,
anyway french army composed
of noblemen which wanted to
capture king and get the rantsome
werent sticking to the battle plan
and all rushed on the king to capure
him.They the misunderstood archers
Who were very flexibile and could transform to man at arms,french stormed on to KING,by now archers killed every horese and frnch had to go on foot(cuz of the soil beeing so specificly sticky and soft )french noblemans if they fell they stayed down,then offcourse a group of archers(now man at arms)just came to kill whats left to be killed cuz the hell of a french army drowned in mud.Now thats the most stupid lose of men on field i ever heard
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Boots
June 9th, 2004  
bush musketeer
 
 

Topic: the august feints at gallipoli


in august at gallipoli feints included attacks by the australian light horse at the nek, quinns post, popes hill, german officers trench.
and infantry attacks at lone pine and chunik bair.


The charge's attempted by the lighthorse all ended in disaster.
at quinns post 50 men attacked and 49 were killed by mg and rifle fire, in the ensuring bomb fight 154 out of 200 were killed at popes hill.
At germans officers trench 300 went forward and 146 were killed.

The nek is still reguarded as one of the most tragic events in my countrys history.
At 4: 30 in the morning the 8th LH was to attack following an artillery bombardment it stopped 7 minutes early giving the turks time to get back in their trenches. The LH only had to run 20 yards to get to the turkish trenches, the 8th victorian LH were to be in the first two attacking lines followed by two lines of the 10 Westralian lighthorse. ony 150 men could go at a time because the area was about the size of a tennis court.
The first wave was wiped off the face of the earth, with no survivors. The second line waited the allotted time of two minutes(why?) before going over the top and was nearly wiped out , those not killed were wounded.
the O.C asked for the attack to be stopped from high command which took 10 minutes and was told to "press on reguardless"
The 10LH took their positions and when the third line attacked it was wiped out. the final line attacked and suffered the same fate. At the roll call that night of 550 men that had attacked the NEK only 47 were alive


At chunik Bair the New Zealand Brigade and the Aussie Fourth Brigade attacked on the first day 765 out of 2000 men engaged were killed. with one NZ battalion which started with 760 men and 30 officers finishing with 1 officer and 49 men.
The NZ'S captured and held chunik bair for 3 days with only 300 men, after the were relived by an english battalion 15,000 turks rolled down the hill and wiped out the english battalion.
The 13 AUS Battalion which started the battle with only 150 men (they had been fighting since the landing ) lost 110 of them. They had had 1000 men at the landing in april.

The English collinwood battalion landed later on with 1000 men and attacked gully ravine after thirty minutes they only had 1 officer (18yrs old) and 22 men left.

Lone pine was a disaster as well, 7 victoria crooses were awarded during the three day battle which was mainly fought underground in th turkish trenches. 2277 men were killed with the turks losing over 5000 men.

These feints were desighned to draw the turks away from the english landings at suvla bay but were a waste of manpower because, some of the british after the landed brewed tea and set up camp instead of advacing like the original plan called for them to. it would cost them dearly later on.

p.s. marksman are you refering to the battle of agincourt in your post?
if so the brits had bodkin arrows there that would go thru armour quite easily and your right the french didn't even attempt to follow a plan in that battle they just went straight at the outnumbered english and got beat up bad.
June 9th, 2004  
Marksman
 
 
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p.s. marksman are you refering to the battle of agincourt in your post?
if so the brits had bodkin arrows there that would go thru armour quite easily and your right the french didn't even attempt to follow a plan in that battle they just went straight at the outnumbered english and got beat up bad.
thats the one,but botkin arow could not penetrate french armor which was composed of steel,no really watched the testing on discovery
June 9th, 2004  
Sooners1
 
 
Stupidest military loss: friendly fire.
June 9th, 2004  
Tessa
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sooners1
Stupidest military loss: friendly fire.
How could anyone forget that one?
June 11th, 2004  
AFSteliga
 
 
If by 'Friendly fire' you mean the little 'incident' in Afghanistan where an American Major bombed a squad of Canadian soldiers, then yeah. I won't forget something like that.
June 11th, 2004  
Sooners1
 
 
I wasnt namin any specific military. Anything that involves an allie accidentally hittin an allie. Not tryin to point fingers or lay blame, and certainly not tryin to start some bs fight. No matter who it hit or who shot it, it is a stupid loss and stupid mistakes that should never happen.
June 11th, 2004  
TankGeneral
 
Please No essays, okay?