STUPID MILITARY LOSSES - Page 2




 
--
Boots
 
June 11th, 2004  
Mark Conley
 
 
I have looked at all the really dumb ones..and the biggest most stupid one in my opinion is the civil war general who orderd his men to attack across a narrow, long bridge over a creek that could be waded because it was only knee deep. Not once, not twice...but over and over.

June 11th, 2004  
C/2nd Lt Robot
 
 
I've been their and in the end neither side gained or lost land.
June 11th, 2004  
>*CrAzY*<
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Conley
I have looked at all the really dumb ones..and the biggest most stupid one in my opinion is the civil war general who orderd his men to attack across a narrow, long bridge over a creek that could be waded because it was only knee deep. Not once, not twice...but over and over.

Would that have happened to take place in NC? there is a story about the CW and a Bridge and it happened in NC.
--
Boots
June 12th, 2004  
C/2nd Lt Robot
 
 
Never heard about that one, the one i heard about was in Virgina i beleive. About 200 Union snipers were at the top of the hill, and the confeds had thousands doing nothing not far from where they were.I beleive they tried to cross three times, but in the end it was useless. (unless of coarse their goal was to weaken their army)
June 25th, 2004  
Mark Conley
 
 
Sorry should have posted it earlier...it was antetiam battlefied and the spot today is Burnsides Bridge: They lost almost 4,000 men on both sides in the pitched battle for the bridge

http://schwartz.eng.auburn.edu/ACW/a...s/burnbrg.html


During the third part of the battle, General Ambrose Burnside's IX Corps tried to fight its way over a strongly defended stone arch bridge, called Lower Bridge or Rohrbach Bridge, over Antietam Creek. Burnside had 12,500 men who were opposed by about 400 men from the 2d, 15th, 17th, and 20th Georgia under Robert Toombs. Toomb's brigade was in positions on the bluff overlooking the bridge. The Georgians held off four Union assaults on the bridge and raking fire from Union artillery for over three hours.

A little after noon, Edward Ferrero's brigade consisting of the 51st New York, the 51st Pennsylvania, and the 21st and 35th Massachusetts was ordered to take the bridge. Ferraro, who had attempted to control drunkenness in his brigade by cutting of its whiskey ration (an unofficial but often followed tradition), ordered the New Yorkers and Pennsylvanians to make the assault.

Corporal Lewis Patterson, Co. J, 51 PA, a teetotaller, shouted to Ferrero, "Will you give us our whiskey, Colonel, if we take it?"

Ferrero answered, "Yes, by God, you shall have as much as you want if you take the bridge. I don't mean the whole brigade, but you two regiments shall have just as much as you want, if it is in the commissary or if I have to send to New York to get it and pay for it out of my own purse; that is if I live to see you through it."

The 2nd Brigade forced the bridge, winning Ferrero a promotion to brigadier, at the cost of two barrels of whiskey. Other units of the brigade were able to flank the position by effecting crossings at Middle Bridge and Snavely's Ford. The Confederate line broke, and retreated towards Sharpsburg. Burnside's troops, stopping to celebrate their victory, allowed A. P. Hill's troops, making a 17 mile (27 km) forced march from Harper's Ferry, to engage and force them back from the outskirts of Sharpsburg. Hill's success on the field was helped by the confusion caused by some of the Confederate troops' wearing Union uniforms captured at Harper's Ferry.


There is some question as to whether the name "Burnside Bridge" is in tribute to Burnside or is a dig at him for his being held up three hours trying to cross a bridge when both Snavely's Ford and Middle Bridge (both about 2 miles (3.2 km) down and upstream, respectively) were available.
June 25th, 2004  
Uncle_Sam
 
 
Friendly fire That's the most stupid thing that could happen on a battlefield......
June 30th, 2004  
England Expects (RAF Cdt)
 
 
Marksman - true the Battle of Agincourt really had a very strange and unexpected outcome. The Battle of the Somme during the First World War also strikes me as a very unnecessary bloodbath. Mines were laid underneath the German trenches, they were exploded ten minutes before the battle started so that they could be filmed. By the time British soldiers got to the craters, the Germans had already fortified their positions. The British waves were ordered to walk towards their opposers and as the German lines had huges swathes of barbed wire, men had to run around frantically looking for a gap in the wire, while the Germans trained their machine guns on them. Such a waste.
July 3rd, 2004  
aircdts4eva
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle_Sam
Friendly fire That's the most stupid thing that could happen on a battlefield......
Friendly Fire??? Is there really such a thing???