Standard Issue

WNxRogue

WNxRogue

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I am intersted to know what you think the best standard issue assault weapon is. Just the name, some info and the Country name.

Mine is:

G36-
Caliber: 5.56 x 45 mm NATO
Muzzle velocity (v0): 920 m/s
Rate of fire: 750 round/min
Maximum shooting distance: 2860 m
Range (reflex sight): 400 m
Range (telescopic sight): 600 m
Rifling: 6 grooves, spin right

Countrys- Germany, Spain, Norway (marines and SF) and Mexico
 
M4:

Caliber: 5.56x45 NATO (.223)
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 838 mm (stock extended); 757 mm (stock fully collapsed)
Barrel length: 370 mm
Weight: 2.52 kg without magazine; 3.0 kg with magazine loaded with 30 rounds
Rate of fire: 700 - 950 rounds per minute
Maximum effective range: 360 m
 
BERYL - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryl_%28assault_rifle%29
  • Cartridge (calibre): 5.56 x 45 mm NATO
  • Muzzle velocity v0: SS109 - 920 m/s, M193 - 940 m/s
  • Muzzle energy E0: SS109 - 1690 J, M193 - 1570 J
  • Mode of fire: single shot, three-round burst, fully automatic
  • Rate of fire: 700 round/min
  • Effective range: 600 m
  • Sight settings: 100 to 1000 m
  • Magazine capacity: 30 rounds
  • Principle of operation: tapping gas off barrel
  • Rifling: 6 grooves
  • Twist of rifling: 228 mm
Country: Poland
 
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Venom PL said:
BERYL - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryl_%28assault_rifle%29
  • Cartridge (calibre): 5.56 x 45 mm NATO
  • Muzzle velocity v0: SS109 - 920 m/s, M193 - 940 m/s
  • Muzzle energy E0: SS109 - 1690 J, M193 - 1570 J
  • Mode of fire: single shot, three-round burst, fully automatic
  • Rate of fire: 700 round/min
  • Effective range: 600 m
  • Sight settings: 100 to 1000 m
  • Magazine capacity: 30 rounds
  • Principle of operation: tapping gas off barrel
  • Rifling: 6 grooves
  • Twist of rifling: 228 mm
Country: Poland
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That's a nice weapon. It still looks like a rifle instead of a dang breadbox. Some of the little boxy looking contraptions are so similar at both ends, I'd be afraid I'd point the wrong end. I wonder if they come with a sign "this end toward enemy?":p
 
WNxRogue said:
Range (reflex sight): 400 m
Range (telescopic sight): 600 m
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Hi, who told you this?
The reflex sight is zeroed for 100 m. For everything above you use the 3X Telescope sight with marks for 200,400,600 and 800 m. The effective range is about 500m but I doubt that. 500m is a lot. On the shootingrange I think it´s possible, but elsewhere I think 500m is something for designated marksman or sniper. Spain uses the G36E ( now renamed in G36V) E=Export. The E only has a 1,5X telescope sight and no reflex sight.

Greetz Joker
 
USA - US Special Operations Command

Mk.16 SCAR-L (Light)
Caliber: 5.56x45 NATO (.223)
Action: gas operated, short stroke piston action with rotating bolt locking
Overall length: 850 mm (stock extended) / 620 mm (stock fully collapsed)
Barrel length: n/a
Weight: 3.5 kg empty
Rate of fire: 600 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds standard

Mk.17 SCAR-H (Heavy)
Caliber: 7.62x51 NATO basic
7.62x39 M43 and others additionally
Action: gas operated, short stroke piston action with rotating bolt locking
Overall length: 997 mm (stock extended) / 770 (stock fully collapsed)
Barrel length: n/a
Weight: 3.5 kg empty
Rate of fire: 600 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 20 rounds (7.62x51 NATO)
30 rounds (7.62x39 M43)
 
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Sig550
SIG 550 specificationsCountry of origin:SwitzerlandIn production:1986 to presentCartridge:Gw Pat.90 5.6 mm (accepts 5.56x45 mm NATO)Length:998 mm (stock open) 772 mm (stock folded)Weight:4.05 kg without magazineBarrel:528 mmRifling:Magazine capacity:20 or 30 roundsMagazine type:detachable boxRate of fire:700 rounds/minMuzzle velocity:905 m/sEffective range:300/450 mSights:rotating drum with four ranges (300m, 200m, close combat and night), built-in tritium sight for night aiming
 
5.56X45mm said:
USA - US Special Operations Command

Mk.16 SCAR-L (Light)
Caliber: 5.56x45 NATO (.223)
Action: gas operated, short stroke piston action with rotating bolt locking
Overall length: 850 mm (stock extended) / 620 mm (stock fully collapsed)
Barrel length: n/a
Weight: 3.5 kg empty
Rate of fire: 600 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds standard

Mk.17 SCAR-H (Heavy)
Caliber: 7.62x51 NATO basic
7.62x39 M43 and others additionally
Action: gas operated, short stroke piston action with rotating bolt locking
Overall length: 997 mm (stock extended) / 770 (stock fully collapsed)
Barrel length: n/a
Weight: 3.5 kg empty
Rate of fire: 600 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 20 rounds (7.62x51 NATO)
30 rounds (7.62x39 M43)
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Is the SCAR weapons system allready issued?

Greetz Joker
 
I also like the

SAR-21
Caliber: 5.56x45mm NATO
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 805 mm
Barrel length: 508 mm
Weight: 3.82 kg without magazine and accessories, 4.44 kg loaded with magazine and 30 rounds of ammunition
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds
Rate of fire: 450-650 rounds per minute
Effective range: about 500 meters
 
Joker said:
Is the SCAR weapons system allready issued?
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Not it isn't. Army SFC is the only command looking at adopting it across the board at the moment but it's on hold the last I heard, which was about three days ago from a heavy collar in USASOC during a Q&A session. Common consensus is that they'll put it on hold, ask everyone what they want and then get it anyway. :mrgreen:

It's sort of an awkward weapon, and it isn't very ergonomic, that and it's not fully complete yet. A lot of the guys I work with prefer the HK and are pushing for that. Having fired both, I prefer the HK416 and 417. Some little complains about the FNC is that it is very bulky, the stock is a pain in the butt, and the picatinney rails are add ons.

Not sure what they'll end up doing.

You mean there is no country with that standard issue? The gun is great!
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Everybody thinks new stuff is great, but it isn't always. I'm a fan of the HK, but I wouldn't call it great until I've had some time behind the trigger. The thing is, it's not a big enough improvement over the M4 (and others) to justify re-outfitting an entire conventional force, but it's a nice enough emprovement to justify outfitting specific units, like SOF.

 
zander_0633 said:
Well, it is a good gun, very loow maintenance too. You should try firing one of those in US!
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They aren't low maintenence at all, no more than the M4. I've fired mine several times, as well as the ones we have in our arms room.

My point was, just because it looks good on paper, don't always assume it is. It IS a good gun, but it's not some great new creation worthy of replacing functioning M4s for an entire conventional force.

 
PJ24 said:
They aren't low maintenence at all, no more than the M4. I've fired mine several times, as well as the ones we have in our arms room.

My point was, just because it looks good on paper, don't always assume it is. It IS a good gun, but it's not some great new creation worthy of replacing functioning M4s for an entire conventional force.
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I agree with you PJ.
Have you also seen/fired/used the HK417? I only heard rumors about it. What do you think, is the higher power of the 7.62 worth the heavyer weight of the ammo? On my opinion (while I´m not a real pro), yes! 7.62 gives you more knockdown power than the 5.56, but this was enough discussed in other threads. Just my poor opinion.
Greetz JOker
 
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