*Split Thread* American Protestor/Israeli Buldozer..




 
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March 2nd, 2005  
rocco
 

Topic: *Split Thread* American Protestor/Israeli Buldozer..


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no, the wall made me made because IT A DUMB IDEA. refer back the the berlin wall. didn't work either, it's just a huge monument about how scared and closed off the isreali Govt is. if the were trying to stop tanks...sure, why not. but we are talking about people with concealed weapons.

both sides are just as guilty as the other...jeez if they were children you pull them apart and send them to their rooms.

also kinda resent the fact that i am aparently a victim of propaganda
comparing it to the berlin wall is exactly what pro-arab propoganda has made you believe... the berlin wall was a barrier between the same people, for the purpose of stopping people from east germany leaving to the west...

absolutely different to the wall in israel which PROTECTS the israeli towns from terrorism... thats why suicide bombing has declined, except where the wall was not built...
this is not about seperating but about protecting one peoples, if you can think of a better way for israel to protect its civilians, why dont you share it... the wall has been successful in stopping more terror and in addition it is removable, as the israeli government have stated numerous times

im also sick of this "israeli tanks kill palestinian children" bull
what a myth... baseless myth.
March 2nd, 2005  
chewie_nz
 
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Originally Posted by rocco
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no, the wall made me made because IT A DUMB IDEA. refer back the the berlin wall. didn't work either, it's just a huge monument about how scared and closed off the isreali Govt is. if the were trying to stop tanks...sure, why not. but we are talking about people with concealed weapons.

both sides are just as guilty as the other...jeez if they were children you pull them apart and send them to their rooms.

also kinda resent the fact that i am aparently a victim of propaganda
comparing it to the berlin wall is exactly what pro-arab propoganda has made you believe... the berlin wall was a barrier between the same people, for the purpose of stopping people from east germany leaving to the west...

absolutely different to the wall in israel which PROTECTS the israeli towns from terrorism... thats why suicide bombing has declined, except where the wall was not built...
this is not about seperating but about protecting one peoples, if you can think of a better way for israel to protect its civilians, why dont you share it... the wall has been successful in stopping more terror and in addition it is removable, as the israeli government have stated numerous times

im also sick of this "israeli tanks kill palestinian children" bull
what a myth... baseless myth.
woa there buddy, pro arab propaganda!? sounds like you're toeing the pro isreali line there pretty well your self.

you could say that the berlin wall seperated two people from the same land.

Israeli strike kills Hamas leader, at least 14 others


By Suhaib Salem, Reuters
Hamas leader Salah Shehadeh died after Israeli forces blew up a house on the Gaza Strip.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...-strike2_x.htm
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) — In an attack criticized by President Bush as "heavy-handed," an Israeli warplane fired a missile that flattened a Gaza City apartment building early Tuesday, killing a Hamas leader at the top of Israel's most wanted list. Palestinians said at least 14 other people, including nine children, died in the airstrike. "This heavy-handed action does not contribute to peace," White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said Tuesday, pointing to "the loss of innocent life. This message will be conveyed to Israeli authorities, and the United States regrets the loss of life."

Israeli Army Kills 10-Year-Old Palestinian Girl at Refugee School
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Thursday, February 03 2005 @ 01:07 PM EST

"UN officials said the incident was the fifth time in two years in which children had been killed or seriously wounded by Israeli soldiers.."

RAFAH, Gaza Strip (PMC) - Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmad Qurei condemned as a “war crime” the killing of a 10-year-old Palestinian girl by Israeli Occupation Forces (IOF) at an UNRWA-run school in the southern Gaza Strip Monday, which provoked a retaliation that threatened a de facto truce at a time when a former Palestinian security and Israel’s “defense” minister were holding their second “security” meeting in a week.

Noran Iyad Deeb died instantly after being shot in the head by Israeli occupation soldiers from an observation post on the border with Egypt, Palestinian medical sources said.


it has been documented by several independant media sources not a "myth" as you put it.

as i said earlier, both sides are as bad as each other...but someone has to stop the CYCLE of killing.
March 2nd, 2005  
rocco
 
hamas leader killed many civilians, how elese would you kill him without risking even more civilian deaths? he knew he was a target when he gave the order to kill civilians, it was his decision to have people around him as human shields, quite similar to what saddam wanted, and either way palestinians are notorious for over-exageration, take for instance jenin "massacre"


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Thursday, February 03 2005 @ 01:07 PM EST

"UN officials said the incident was the fifth time in two years in which children had been killed or seriously wounded by Israeli soldiers.."

RAFAH, Gaza Strip (PMC) - Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmad Qurei condemned as a “war crime” the killing of a 10-year-old Palestinian girl by Israeli Occupation Forces (IOF) at an UNRWA-run school in the southern Gaza Strip Monday, which provoked a retaliation that threatened a de facto truce at a time when a former Palestinian security and Israel’s “defense” minister were holding their second “security” meeting in a week.

Noran Iyad Deeb died instantly after being shot in the head by Israeli occupation soldiers from an observation post on the border with Egypt, Palestinian medical sources said.
rofl where did you get this bs link? i bet that isnt even the full story

IOF? rofl mao... where did you get that link? jewwatch website?
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March 2nd, 2005  
chewie_nz
 
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Originally Posted by rocco
hamas leader killed many civilians, how elese would you kill him without risking even more civilian deaths? he knew he was a target when he gave the order to kill civilians, it was his decision to have people around him as human shields, quite similar to what saddam wanted, and either way palestinians are notorious for over-exageration, take for instance jenin "massacre"


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Thursday, February 03 2005 @ 01:07 PM EST

"UN officials said the incident was the fifth time in two years in which children had been killed or seriously wounded by Israeli soldiers.."

RAFAH, Gaza Strip (PMC) - Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmad Qurei condemned as a “war crime” the killing of a 10-year-old Palestinian girl by Israeli Occupation Forces (IOF) at an UNRWA-run school in the southern Gaza Strip Monday, which provoked a retaliation that threatened a de facto truce at a time when a former Palestinian security and Israel’s “defense” minister were holding their second “security” meeting in a week.

Noran Iyad Deeb died instantly after being shot in the head by Israeli occupation soldiers from an observation post on the border with Egypt, Palestinian medical sources said.
rofl where did you get this bs link? i bet that isnt even the full story

IOF? rofl mao... where did you get that link? jewwatch website?
hamas leader they are talking about was a tetraplegic 80 year old...you saying that a four ship formation of apaches firing anti tank missles was the best way to get him?

rocco, i think you are getting the wrong idea about me, or perhaps you are being told other things than me...i am providing links and stories and trying my level best to make sure they are as unbiased as possible. can you do the same? it would be alot easier for me to dig up rhetoric and flat out lies from both sides of this conflict, belive me from my searching today there is plenty of it! but such is the nature of what we are debating...the nature of propaganda. rather the why's and why fors of the conflict in israel.

some more articles;

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - An Israeli aircraft fired a missile at a home near a Hamas stronghold in the Jebaliya refugee camp on Sunday, killing one civilian and wounding eight other Palestinians, hospital officials said.

It was not immediately clear why the army targeted the house, which was near the Kholfa Mosque, a power base for the militant group Hamas. The army did not immediately comment.

The strike killed a 38-year-old Palestinian civilian and seriously wounded eight other Palestinians, including a girl, hospital officials said. It also caused extensive damage to homes and stores nearby, witnesses said.

The two deaths brought the number of Palestinians killed in the operation to 96. Almost half of those killed were civilians, 18 were age 16 and under.
http://www.rednova.com/news/display/?id=92747


Israeli bulldozer kills U.S. protester


Monday, March 17, 2003 at 09:20 JST
GAZA CITY — An American college student in Gaza to protest Israel operations was killed Sunday when she was run over by a bulldozer while trying to block troops from demolishing a Palestinian home.

At least one Palestinian also was killed.
http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content...at=8&id=252948


March 2nd, 2005  
rocco
 
i can give u many clips of suicide bombings, executions and lynching...
what you have given me is rubbish, and you legitematly dont know it

that tetraplegic u mention i assume is yassin? you do know he gave religeous acceptance to suicide bombers to blow up civilians? he is directly responsible for giving the go ahead for terrorist attacks... its like those shieks in iran, iraq etc who tell people to kill american civilians

and that ugly ***** who got run over was asking for it... she walked under a bulldozer, what do you expect, you are making it out like the driver just targetted her... rubbish... if your a dozer going up a hill do you know what your visibility is below?
March 2nd, 2005  
A Can of Man
 
 
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Originally Posted by chewie_nz

Monday, March 17, 2003 at 09:20 JST
GAZA CITY — An American college student in Gaza to protest Israel operations was killed Sunday when she was run over by a bulldozer while trying to block troops from demolishing a Palestinian home.
When the many of us say, "Arrogant American," this is what we mean.
I guess this protestor didn't understand how serious the Israelis were.
March 2nd, 2005  
Big_Z
 
 
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Originally Posted by chewie_nz

Monday, March 17, 2003 at 09:20 JST
GAZA CITY — An American college student in Gaza to protest Israel operations was killed Sunday when she was run over by a bulldozer while trying to block troops from demolishing a Palestinian home.
When the many of us say, "Arrogant American," this is what we mean.
I guess this protestor didn't understand how serious the Israelis were.
Yea she was a dumbass but you cant label us all as arrogant, I will be the first to tell you that America produces some of the worlds finest idiots. To get back on topic I find it hard to believe that a group of people could be so gullible. At first I pittied them, but now i'm starting to feel that if they are that gullible they deserve everything that comes their way.
March 2nd, 2005  
03USMC
 
 
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Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
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Originally Posted by chewie_nz

Monday, March 17, 2003 at 09:20 JST
GAZA CITY — An American college student in Gaza to protest Israel operations was killed Sunday when she was run over by a bulldozer while trying to block troops from demolishing a Palestinian home.
When the many of us say, "Arrogant American," this is what we mean.
I guess this protestor didn't understand how serious the Israelis were.
No thats a "Stupid American". Mommy shoulda taught her not to stand in front of heavy equipment. The "Arrogant Americans" are the ones that are crying because she got killed for her stupidity. Thinking she some how should have been protected by her Citizenship.
March 2nd, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
Steel on target, 03USMC
March 2nd, 2005  
CABAL
 
 
Not to sound like a cold hearltess insulter of life, the woman have made a somewhat unwise decision.