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View Poll Results :Should the sign be taken down?
Yes 3 13.04%
No 20 86.96%
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March 24th, 2008  
pixiedustboo
 
 
"Speak English"
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Originally Posted by mmarsh
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And what if the opposite were true?

What if I went to Seoul and there was a sign that said "ORDERS IN KOREAN ONLY". I don't speak Korean, not a single word. What am I supposed to do starve? Or not have come at all? Somehow I dont think the Korean Tourism board would be pleased with a "Korean-only" rule, seems like an excellent method of discouraging people from visiting.

Let me tell you this, there are thousands of Americans (both businessmen and tourists) that visit Paris every year and only a few actually speak French and yet they are NOT denied service.
Okay, but everyone is aware we have a serious Mexican (illegals) problem in the United States. This isn't the United States of Mexico, this is the United States of America. If they are going to be living here they should learn English. When I was down in FL we went to two different restaurants, and both times the people were clueless (and Mexican). They had no idea what we were saying and they couldn't speak a full sentence of English.

P.S. But honestly, if they can't speak English I would think they should be asked for a green card, and if they don't have it, deport! *Claps. None of this illegals running around in the streets protesting crap. That's B.S.
March 24th, 2008  
A Can of Man
 
 
American English is my first language. Please help. heheheh
March 24th, 2008  
DTop
 
 
I think the business owner has a right to post whatever sign he wants. He says his staff only speaks English. Besides, if you can't speak English, chances are fair that you can't read it either so the sign's almost funny. He doesn't need a law proclaiming English as the national language any more than he needs a law stating the price of hamburgers. It's his shop and his sign. If the customers dislike it, they'll stay away otherwise, who really cares?
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March 25th, 2008  
justin1552
 
 
Let it stay up. I think i'll drive down to that restaurant and shake the owners hand.
March 25th, 2008  
mmarsh
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pixiedustboo
Okay, but everyone is aware we have a serious Mexican (illegals) problem in the United States. This isn't the United States of Mexico, this is the United States of America. If they are going to be living here they should learn English. When I was down in FL we went to two different restaurants, and both times the people were clueless (and Mexican). They had no idea what we were saying and they couldn't speak a full sentence of English.

P.S. But honestly, if they can't speak English I would think they should be asked for a green card, and if they don't have it, deport! *Claps. None of this illegals running around in the streets protesting crap. That's B.S.
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First of all, this case is in Philly not Houston or Miami, so I don't think there is this massive immigration problem as there is elsewhere. Which is another why the sign is silly, because I don't think Mexicans or other foreigners are particularly fond of Philly Cheese Steaks. -I love 'em.

Secondly, Do you really think when a foreigner comes to a another country he DOESN'T want to learn the language? These immigrants are not REFUSING to speak English they CANNOT speak English. Do you have idea what kind of a handicap it is to be in a country when you DON'T speak the language? I do. Let me tell you from personal experience that when I arrived in Paris it was hard for me to understand because my French was far from perfect. But because French was the language at work I was forced (through the day-to-day routine) to get better at it. The best way to master a foreign language is to thrust your way into it by living abroad. Thats exactly what I tell my French colleagues that wish to improve their English.

These anti-immigrant sentiments are hardly anything new. From 1890 to 1930 there was a massive immigration from Ireland, Italy, Germany, China, Russia, and about 1/3 of the entire Eastern European population. Almost none of those people spoke English. And the xenophobia against them is the same we are feeling now against the Mexicans. Its simply a nasty bit of history repeating itself.

Thats why some of you should check your family roots. Because I bet some of your ancestors experienced the same prejudice when they got off the boat as the current illegals are facing now. This immigration issue is NOT new.

And like the early 20th century, many of these workers are clandestine they are not properly integrated into our society, they either choose or are forced stay within there own communities, it took a generation for these people to start to integrate.

When I worked in New York in retail, I told customers 'no hablo Espanol'. That was sufficent, I didn't need to lecture them about this being America blah blah blah. Its condesending and its obvious. Even to the uncultured of illegal immigrants, Everybody knows America is English speaking country.
March 25th, 2008  
Wolf
 
 
At least try and learn the language of the country you're in.
These sort things give people more of a reason to.

"I don't care, I'll cross the border illegally..."
"I don't care, I'll drive without a license..."
"I don't care, I don't have to learn the language..."

Learning the language is the least they can do. Yes, I'm referring to immagrants.
March 25th, 2008  
The Other Guy
 
 
I plan on going to Germany, which is why I'm learning German...
March 25th, 2008  
pixiedustboo
 
 
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Originally Posted by mmarsh
Do you have idea what kind of a handicap it is to be in a country when you DON'T speak the language?

These anti-immigrant sentiments are hardly anything new.
LOL, then they shouldn't be jumping the border illegally!!!

I have no problem with immigrants. LEGAL immigrants.
March 26th, 2008  
03USMC
 
 
Because someone does not speak english does not make them illegal.

Fluency in english is not a requirement for legal entry into the United States. Nor is it a requirement for a Resident Alien ID (Green Card).

Your logic that a person of Latino heritage who does not speak english as well as you think or would like them to must be illegal. Is flawed at best and racist at worst. Unless you have checked their documentation you have no way of knowing.

It's called profiling.
March 26th, 2008  
pixiedustboo
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 03USMC
Because someone does not speak english does not make them illegal.

Fluency in english is not a requirement for legal entry into the United States. Nor is it a requirement for a Resident Alien ID (Green Card).

Your logic that a person of Latino heritage who does not speak english as well as you think or would like them to must be illegal. Is flawed at best and racist at worst. Unless you have checked their documentation you have no way of knowing.

It's called profiling.
I am speaking specifically about those who ARE here illegally.

I believe knowing the language should be a requirement for a green card. (Being that of a full time resident and planning on living in the country). In cases like that I totally understand and empathize with those that are trying to learn the language.