Soviet Superweapon used vs CHina in the 60s




 
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February 11th, 2005  
victortsoi
 

Topic: Soviet Superweapon used vs CHina in the 60s


My father was in the red navy during the early 70s, and during this time border skirmishes flared up with the chinese all the time. There was a rumour throughout soviet military that they had used some superweapon to obliterate the disputed island of Damansk.
dad doesnt neccesarily believe the story, but im curious as if it has some kernel of truth.
February 11th, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
You can read about it here:

http://www.strategypage.com/messageb...s/30-18636.asp
February 11th, 2005  
Jim Goose
 
Both were commies, you'd think they'd get along right?

So much for ideological similarties uniting people... I guess ethnicity is more relevant.

This is news to me.
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February 11th, 2005  
A Can of Man
 
 
No. Even Churchill talked about how these Communist groups, who preached the brotherhood of all mankind cracked him up because none of these communist groups could agree or get along with each other to begin with
February 11th, 2005  
Jim Goose
 
Churchill was dope.

We need more of him.

Communism is sort of like religion, it's all about being good to one another and brotherhood and equality but when it comes down to it greed dictates action.

weird.

You would think America's presence in Vietnam would unite Russia in China at that time. Especially after Korea too.

Nationalisms a *****
February 11th, 2005  
MadeInChina
 
hey hey, not much of a fair fight is it: soviets with mass armored divisions mastertanker guderian had dreamt of attacking the chinese who had little armored power

about the communist idology, it was mainly because of kuschreav, wutever the hell his name is, after stalin

he was disgrminating aginist china, more or less from a personal threat that made the entire soviet union aginist china
February 11th, 2005  
Zucchini
 
I read through some of that. The anthrax part is highly dubious. Anthrax is a dangerous pathogen, but nobody has been able to make it into an effective weapon of mass desctruction because nobody can solve getting a dose into massive numbers of people.

And it wouldn't stop anything from growing on an island.

You can find anthrax spores in dirt. They remain viable for a long time. They've successfully used spores discovered in articles of clothing found in the pyramids.

Also, common antibiotics stop it dead in its tracks. When they had anthrax in the Senate office building and the post offices they used some hot-rod antibiotic that is hard on kidneys, but old antibiotics from the 1950s knock the crap out of it.

Rancher's kid - seen it kill cattle.
February 11th, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
"about the communist idology, it was mainly because of kuschreav, wutever the h**l his name is, after stalin"

Wrong. Stalinism was the first major corruption of communist ideals. It was already twisted from what Marx and Engels had envisioned by Lenin, but Stalin totally bent it out of any similarity to anything like what "Das Capital" was about. Khrushchev was actually a reformer in comparison to Stalin. After the missles of October he became more and more increasingly willing to negotiate with the West and that is why Breshnev and the politburo kicked him out of power.
February 11th, 2005  
rOk
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Charge_7
"about the communist idology, it was mainly because of kuschreav, wutever the h**l his name is, after stalin"

Wrong. Stalinism was the first major corruption of communist ideals. It was already twisted from what Marx and Engels had envisioned by Lenin, but Stalin totally bent it out of any similarity to anything like what "Das Capital" was about. Khrushchev was actually a reformer in comparison to Stalin. After the missles of October he became more and more increasingly willing to negotiate with the West and that is why Breshnev and the politburo kicked him out of power.
Nicely said...
February 11th, 2005  
Zucchini
 
I think he is means Krushev's behavior with China led to a split between the two countries in the 1960s. Mao did not trust Krushev's warming of relations with the West by negotiating away China's issues with India and Taiwan, etc.

China and North Vietnam have a lengthy history of conflict.