Somali pirates capture dhows, 120 missing 31 Mar 2010, 0223 hrs IST,ET Bureau

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NEW DELHI: Around 120 Indian sailors are reported missing after Somali pirates seized seven Indian vessels off the coast of

Somalia.

The Centre was trying to find out the whereabouts of Indians and the number of seized dhows. The sailors are from Gujarat and were on their way from a port in the rebel territory of Kismayo, in Somalia, to Dubai when the pirates struck. The information about the seven dhows and the Indians was obtained by the Navy from the crew members of an Indian ship who were released recently by pirates.

“On Saturday afternoon, we got intimation that seven or eight vessels registered with us have been hijacked by Somali pirates,” said Mr Kasam Ali, president of the merchant vessels association. “Eighty to 100 people who were on these vessels are missing.”

Piracy has continued to grow off the Somalian coast inspite of international efforts to curb the menace. Pirates have branched off deeper into the Indian Ocean. Indian Navy commandos had stopped a pirate attack on a Greek carrier off the Indian coast this month.

India is also among a number of countries that has its Navy patrolling the Gulf of Aden, which connects the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean. The waterway carries a third of the world’s fuel supplies. At present, India has one warship, INS Beas, in the Gulf of Aden to escort merchant vessels back and forth.

Over 700 merchant vessels have been escorted across the Gulf of Aden since late 2008. With pirates targeting ships deep in the Indian Ocean, India has also been sending patrol vessels near Seychelles. In December, M V Agrasen’s crew staved of an attack off the Maharashtra coast.



Any solution to this piracy problem? i don't think there's any....
 
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Yeah there is a really easy solution that the worlds great maritime nations figured out 200 years ago.

1) You pay no ransoms.
2) You stop arresting pirates and just sink them on the spot and leave the crews to swim home.
3) You destroy the ports they leave from and any towns, villages or selected crap hole that are supporting them.
4. Destroy any vessel leaving Somali waters that will not stop and allow a search.

Basically you make it so expensive and costly for these pirates to operate that they no longer want to operate and you make it so difficult for people to support them they no longer want to risk supporting them.

It is time to stop being civilised with people who are not.
 
Yeah there is a really easy solution that the worlds great maritime nations figured out 200 years ago.
What country has the same values on crime and punishment that they had in 1810?? How many countries of the EU have capital punishment, hmmmm?? Need I say more.

Yeah there is a really easy solution that the worlds great maritime nations figured out 200 years ago.
1) You pay no ransoms.
2) You stop arresting pirates and just sink them on the spot and leave the crews to swim home.
3) You destroy the ports they leave from and any towns, villages or selected crap hole that are supporting them.
4. Destroy any vessel leaving Somali waters that will not stop and allow a search.
It is time to stop being civilised with people who are not.
1) The shipping and insurance companies find it is cheaper than any other solution. You arm the crews and the first time someone is shot during combat their relatives would sue and, win!

3) Destroying the people who live there would be similar to bombing and killing the South Viet Namese people because of the actions of the Viet Cong. The people who live in the cities in Somolia have zero say so in their lives. They are at the mercy of those who order and direct these pirates.

2 & 4) The majority of the vessels that leave the ports of Somolia are engaged in legitimate commerce. The pirates are onsies and twosies and the powerless people who live on land have no say so.
 
Screw the powerless people the simple fact of the matter is that the place is a basket case and the people don't seem to care, so it is time they decided where their best interests lay and who knows it may be just the incentive they need to get their act together, if not then we stop sending aid to the region and see how that works.

Either way I am tired of this nonsense.
 
Screw the powerless people the simple fact of the matter is that the place is a basket case and the people don't seem to care, so it is time they decided where their best interests lay and who knows it may be just the incentive they need to get their act together, if not then we stop sending aid to the region and see how that works.
If the people are powerless, do you think starving them will cause them to "somehow" seize power??

Either way I am tired of this nonsense.
I am also but, who has any solution... certainly I don't? President Clinton sent in some troops and that did not work either. A good but sad movie came from this debacticle, "Blackhawk Down."
Sinking the small boats that try to board ships, won't work because those in power don't give a damn about the loss of their "go fors" (somewhat like the Chinese army during Korea).
 
If the people are powerless, do you think starving them will cause them to "somehow" seize power??

It did throughout Europe and they are some of the strongest democracies in the world.


I am also but, who has any solution... certainly I don't? President Clinton sent in some troops and that did not work either. A good but sad movie came from this debacticle, "Blackhawk Down."
Sinking the small boats that try to board ships, won't work because those in power don't give a damn about the loss of their "go fors" (somewhat like the Chinese army during Korea).

I will be honest and say I don't care about the solution to Somalia I care about the solution to the piracy issue and sealing off the countries coast line while waging an aggressive campaign against the pirates and their bases I believe will have an effect.
 
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