So why do people hate Israel? - Page 70




 
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May 25th, 2012  
Yossarian
 
 
If you shout anything long enough and loud enough eventually people will believe it.

Debate is more on par with a marathon than a model of discussion.

This one no different.
May 25th, 2012  
senojekips
 
 
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Originally Posted by VDKMS
I didn't watch those movies either. They are only opinions of people, and one is making lots of money with it. He's a Jew, he knows how to make money. You can make more money with an anti-Israel book than a pro one..
No one would expect you to , it might upset your daydream. Yes, they are opinions,... and they are both opinions of people with a great deal of personal and practical experience in the subjects they discuss, whereas you would rather believe the propaganda that emanates from a rogue state that has earned more condemnatory UN resolutions than any other country in the world including such marvelous sh!tholes as North Korea and Somalia etc.

The very fact that you dismiss the opinions of such people is a good indication of your brain washed Nazi like mindset.
May 26th, 2012  
r.fox
 
 
i didnt watch the movies cause i have dial-up or couldnt hear them. but i stand by my point - when does anyone really own land? you tell me.
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May 26th, 2012  
senojekips
 
 
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Originally Posted by r.fox
i didnt watch the movies cause i have dial-up or couldnt hear them. but i stand by my point - when does anyone really own land? you tell me.
You haven't got a "point" What are you actually trying to say, are you implying that no one really owns anything, and therefore there is no such thing as ownership.

I think that virtually every sane person on earth would disagree with you. I think that your brain is on dial-up too.
May 26th, 2012  
Del Boy
 
Empty vessels make the most noise.

You are a spreader of propaganda, you try to bully by insult.

As far as you are concerned, no-one is allowed a different opinion.


OK, I can now answer the title question:-

Many people hate Israel because the Ashkenazi have been confirmed as the most brilliant ethnic group in the world. There you have it, sheer jealousy.
May 28th, 2012  
r.fox
 
 
i mean that it is the land that people do not own. we simply build things on it. although we may not own that land in my view, what we do with it makes the difference. in reality what are countries apart from lines on a map or edges of oceans lakes rivers etc ?

you still have to tell me what constitutes ownership of land in your eyes

interistingly enough senojekips, you consisntly insult me even though i have not insulted you. you apear to be clutching to an ideological opinion that you clearly see in black and white.
May 28th, 2012  
senojekips
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by r.fox
i mean that it is the land that people do not own. we simply build things on it. although we may not own that land in my view, what we do with it makes the difference. in reality what are countries apart from lines on a map or edges of oceans lakes rivers etc ?

you still have to tell me what constitutes ownership of land in your eyes

interistingly enough senojekips, you consisntly insult me even though i have not insulted you. you apear to be clutching to an ideological opinion that you clearly see in black and white.
My "opinion" doesn't matter it has no more bearing than your "view", what matters is what is "right" backed by the findings of the International community. Had you watched the videos you would see that even (moral) Jews agree.

I don't insult you, I merely point out the truth about your poor decisions in life regarding this matter, the fact that what you hear is unpleasant is hardly my doing.

Had you have supported Nazism I would have told you the same, as Zionism and Nazism are two peas in a pod. Israel is no more than Zionist Lebensraum
May 28th, 2012  
r.fox
 
 
you said that my brain was on dial up.

as i already told you, i CANNOT watch those videos

Nazism and zionism are NOT to peas in a pod. although the Israelis may be practising Lebensraum, comparing them to the NAZIs is not realistic. are the Zionists carring out the 'final solution'? no. all they are doing are trying to defend their country. athough you say that the israelis 'stole' the palestinians land, you should remember that new countries are being created all the time. the South Sudan didnt exist untill the 9th of july last year.
May 28th, 2012  
senojekips
 
 
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Originally Posted by r.fox
you said that my brain was on dial up.

as i already told you, i CANNOT watch those videos

Nazism and zionism are NOT to peas in a pod. although the Israelis may be practising Lebensraum, comparing them to the NAZIs is not realistic. are the Zionists carring out the 'final solution'? no. all they are doing are trying to defend their country. athough you say that the israelis 'stole' the palestinians land, you should remember that new countries are being created all the time. the South Sudan didnt exist untill the 9th of july last year.
I never implied any guilt because you can't watch the videos, I just said that you can't see the evidence to support my claim, and because of that I can't see how you can argue against it.

Anyone who supports a rogue regime that steals beats and murders innocent civilians obviously has far worse problems than a brain on dial up, I make no apologies whatsoever for that fact.

If you could have watched the videos, you would have seen Dr. Hajo Meyer, a holocaust survivor say exactly what I did, he's Jewish and lives in Israel, however he clearly states that the treatment of the Palestinian people by the Israeli regime is no better than that of the Nazis towards the Jews. What you say or think, is of no consequence whatsoever when compared with people who have lived through both systems.

South Sudan was bought about by the Sudanese people and was not invaded and occupied by foreigners from another continent who drove out the owners and beat and killed those who resisted, treating those who remain like animals. In actual fact it was merely a political subdivision of a previously existing country.
May 28th, 2012  
r.fox
 
 
yes i know that the israelis soldiers did kill civilians, most of the time without provocation. but remember that it would have been worse for the jews in arab states. even before Israel was created. at least now the jews have somewhere to go. in any one of the Arab-Israel wars the Israelis should have been beaten. but they weren`t. what would have happened to the Israeli civilians if Israel had lost?
 


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