So why do people hate Israel? - Page 46




 
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March 22nd, 2012  
senojekips
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eileen36
The big deal these days is because it is on Television News 24 hours a day
It's just as well, as it has shown the world what the Israelis were hiding with their censorship.

Mobile phones with cheap video cameras, and access to the internet have uncovered 60 years of deeply entrenched oppression, racism, harassment and murder of innocent women and children.
March 23rd, 2012  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by senojekips
It's just as well, as it has shown the world what the Israelis were hiding with their censorship.

Mobile phones with cheap video cameras, and access to the internet have uncovered 60 years of deeply entrenched oppression, racism, harassment and murder of innocent women and children.
I agree with you there, Spike.

There is, however, a huge problem with all these videos on youtube and all other direct media if I can use that term. What do they really depict? What is the purpose to post them? Do they express the reality? I do not say they are wrong, but I can see a huge problem to relying on them
March 23rd, 2012  
VDKMS
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by senojekips
Your answer still does not show that the war is not over land or that they would not resist Muslims who did the same thing. Religion is used to unite their cause as it brings in world wide Islamic support, but is not the reason they resist. You only make this claim because you know that the Israeli claim to the land is based on a religious claim to ownership.

How many more do you want, all from people who live without the Jewish jackboot on their neck. I can find at least another 20 or 30 the same.

Your answers and attitudes here show that to be a blatant lie.
Nice videos, but they only show the opinion of people. On Youtube you can find pro and contra anything videos, fake and real. It's good for the media not for facts.

You say that all islamic terrorism is because of Israel. OK, let's asume you are right and follow that logic.

Case 1 : because of the evil Zionists a group of fundamentalist muslim Arabs found Al Qaeda in.....Afghanistan. And to combat the evil Israelis who murdered many Palestinian women and children they start to attack..........the Russians. ??????

Case 2 : because of the evil Zionists a group of fundamentalist muslim Somalians found Al Shabaab in.........Somalia. And to combat the evil Israelis who murdered many Palestinian women and children they start to attack..........fellow Somalians. ????????

Case 3 : because of the evil Zionists a group of fundamentalist muslim Nigerians found Boko Haram in........Nigeria. And to combat the evil Israelis who murdered many Palestinian women and children they start to attack........Christians in Nigeria. ?????????

Case 4 : The beginning. Because of the evil Zionists, who stole the land of the inhabitants, a group of fundamentalist muslim Arabs (they later called themselves Palestinians) start to attack jews who were praying and jews who lived there before there was even word of Islam. ??????????

Here's my logic.

Case 1 : a group of fundamentalist muslim Arabs found Al Qaeda in Afghanistan to combat the Russians because Russians are non-muslims and their boots are not allowed on muslim ground. They also want to install sharia law.

Case 2 : a group of fundamentalist muslim Somalians found Al Shabaab in Somalia to wage a jihad against "enemies of Islam" in Somalia and to install sharia law.

Case 3 : a group of fundamentalist muslim Nigerians found Boko Haram in Nigeria and installed sharia law in the north. They now want to spread that to the whole of Nigeria.

Case 4 : The beginning. a group of fundamentalist muslim Arabs (they later called themselves Palestinians) start to attack jews who were praying and jews who lived there before there was even word of Islam because there was word of the founding of a Jewish state in the region of Palestine. A non-muslim state on muslim ground was unacceptable. The region originally promised to the Jews was the whole of Transjordan.

Why the myth of muslim fundamentalism because of Israel? Easy, propaganda! Do you think they could persuade western leftist groups to support their fight to establish sharia law and create an Islamic world wide caliphate? NO! But those western leftist groups are very sensitive to Palestinian casualties. Most of them do not even know the truth about that conflict, and don't care. Just as you.

The only Israelis that (still) claim the whole of Transjordan (as originally promised and as in the bible) are fanatic religious groups. I do not support them as does the Israeli government.

Some other things:

Statement by Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi (a local Arab leader) to the Peel Commission in 1937:
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There is no such country as 'Palestine'; 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists
invented!
Statement by Ahmed Shuqeiri (the first Chairman of the Palestine Liberation Organization), to the UN Security Council in 1949
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It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria.
The following is a letter submitted to the New York Times in 1975 which the New York Times did not see fit to print (Arthur Kahn and Thomas Murray, The Palestinians: A Political Masquerade, Published by Americans For A Safe Israel)

Quote:
Dear Sir:

Your newspaper frequently uses the term "Palestinian" to describe a section of the Middle East population which is Arab, to differentiate it from Israeli Jews. As the holder of a Palestinian Identity Card and a Certificate of Discharge from a Palestinian Unit of the British army, I find this practice annoying and certainly untrue...

We Palestinian Jews wore the uniform of the British Army, and on our shoulder epaulettes the single word, "Palestine" in English. We tried to get permission to wear Hebrew insignia, fly the Jewish flag and be recognized as Palestinian Jews, but-no, Palestinian meant Jew and Arab, and who cared if there were fewer than 3000 Arabs as compared to 36,000 Jews in khaki? In British army nomenclature, the equivalent of a GI is BOR, meaning British Other Rank. We were formally known as POR , Palestinian Other Ranks.

So we fought the war as Palestinians, set up the Jewish Brigade as Palestinians, and I'll be damned if I agree that only Arafat and his assassins are Palestinians.

As a Palestinian, I was arrested by the British on suspicion of smuggling immigrants into the country. As a Palestinian, I had the honor of commanding the 329th Palestinian Companyof the Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers (all Jews). There were no equivalent Arab units. Once a British general said to me, "Migawd| I have so many things to dislike you for, for being a Jew, American born, a Palestinian-and you don't even know how to handle a knife and fork!

So cut it out, please. Call them what you will, but not Palestinians.

Yours truly,
Joe Criden
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March 24th, 2012  
Del Boy
 
Informative links:-

THEN :-

http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/



AND Now:-


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March 24th, 2012  
senojekips
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by VDKMS
Nice videos, but they only show the opinion of people.
Now that is about what we'd expect from you,...

Yeah, it's really sad isn't it. Just so you'll know when you run into it again, we in the free world, call it "Democracy". It really annoys you to see the people of the free world waking up to what has been going on in Palestine doesn't it?.... Especially when a good proportion of them are Jews.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Boy
Informative links:-
Squaaarrk, squaark , squaaarrk,....

With idiots like you running around panicking like a headless chook, I can understand why they act the way they do. LOL
March 24th, 2012  
Del Boy
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by senojekips
Squaaarrk, squaark , squaaarrk,....

With idiots like you running around panicking like a headless chook, I can understand why they act the way they do. LOL

Sigh and yawn here. Is that the best you've got ? You can't touch my links then?

As they say in the tropics 'you say it best when you say nothing at all'.

It seems the truth doesn't ever fit your one trick pony Ummah agenda. Sad.
March 24th, 2012  
VDKMS
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by senojekips
Now that is about what we'd expect from you,...

Yeah, it's really sad isn't it. Just so you'll know when you run into it again, we in the free world, call it "Democracy". It really annoys you to see the people of the free world waking up to what has been going on in Palestine doesn't it?.... Especially when a good proportion of them are Jews.
People in the free world can express themselves in many ways but is is not because some people are against something that others have to swallow it.

Quote:
Squaaarrk, squaark , squaaarrk,....

With idiots like you running around panicking like a headless chook, I can understand why they act the way they do. LOL
Seems he hit a nerve.
March 24th, 2012  
senojekips
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Boy
Sigh and yawn here. Is that the best you've got ? You can't touch my links then?
Touch them? Why would i want to touch them? They are already "touched" Like the idiot who posted them. Have you got your Merry go round wound up, and your recording of "March of the clowns' ready to go?

Quote:
Originally Posted by VDKMS
People in the free world can express themselves in many ways but is is not because some people are against something that others have to swallow it.
Yeah,... I reckon that you and Jo Goebbels would have got along famously.
March 24th, 2012  
Yossarian
 
 
Upon review of this thread, and the very real situation it covers, I have surmised that the human race, if un able to agree on such matters, even without the presence of any outside threat,

Is inherently doomed.
March 25th, 2012  
Del Boy
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by senojekips
Touch them? Why would i want to touch them? They are already "touched" Like the idiot who posted them. Have you got your Merry go round wound up, and your recording of "March of the clowns' ready to go?
I'll take that as your best shot in response to my links, then. All quiet on the western front tonight; I'll just finish my cocoa and leave you to your Ummah agendas.
 


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