So why do people hate Israel? - Page 42




 
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March 9th, 2012  
Yossarian
 
 
"If you care to look at the origins of virtually all of today's Global Islamic terrorism, it can all be traced back to US support of Israel in their oppression of of the Palestinian people. "



I do care, so thanks for the lead.

I did quite a bit of digging since my last post in this thread, and now see a whole lot of what is contributing towards the ever nearer confrontation between Iran and Israel, and what this means for American Taxpayers as result-

This complex situation can almost be labeled as an artificially created set of circumstances, partly because of over 40 years of blind support of Israel and it's campgain to secure Palestine no matter the costs.

In a climate choked by recession, and with an ecomnomy with barely a pulse, that the prospect of another war on the horizon, spells not only for myself and many families across my country, that what we would feel with the effects of another episode of chatostrophic spending brought on by any armed showdown in the region.

Most importantly the loss of more American Lives.

I sometimes feel that the U.S. government today in terms of foreign policy is still treating Israel like America's only vestige in the Middle East, and that it should be defended at all costs so we can monitor the Soviets....

This isn't 1963 anymore.

This isn't 1898 anymore for that matter. You would think that in today's more "civilized" climate of diplomacy that Gun Boat Diplomacy would be archaic thing of the past.

I guess I am mistaken.

And it just out right pi$$es me off to hear the notion from Iran saying "When Israel strikes, we will aslo consider this a declaration of war by the United States"

For me that means good bye for a chance a warm economic recovery and even more importantly the saftey of our troops in this country, and hello more casualties and welcome to the lost generation.

I suppose I should now draft my thank you letter adressed to Tel Aviv.
March 9th, 2012  
VDKMS
 
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Originally Posted by senojekips
Israel is without doubt the USAs (and for that matter the World's) most serious liability.

If you care to look at the origins of virtually all of today's Global Islamic terrorism, it can all be traced back to US support of Israel in their oppression of of the Palestinian people.

The Palestinians may only be "dumb *******s" to the American public, but they are not so stupid as to not realise that they have had their land stolen from them.
You don't seem to get it do you? Islamic terrorism has nothing to do with Israel, it's all about non-muslims on muslim ground. Look at Iraq. As long as the Americans and their allies (39 countries!) were destroying Sadam's army it was OK. After that: thank you and now get out of here or we will attack you, and they did. The Islamic terrorists don't care about the Palestinians they want to destroy the Jews because their nation is build on muslim (not Palestinian) ground.
March 9th, 2012  
senojekips
 
 
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Originally Posted by VDKMS
You don't seem to get it do you? Islamic terrorism has nothing to do with Israel, it's all about non-muslims on muslim ground. Look at Iraq. As long as the Americans and their allies (39 countries!) were destroying Sadam's army it was OK. After that: thank you and now get out of here or we will attack you, and they did. The Islamic terrorists don't care about the Palestinians they want to destroy the Jews because their nation is build on muslim (not Palestinian) ground.
I get it but obviously you don't. For a start, as usual your answer was nothing to do with what I said.

Saddam was nothing to do with it.
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Originally Posted by senojekips
If you care to look at the origins of virtually all of today's Global Islamic terrorism, it can all be traced back to US support of Israel in their oppression of of the Palestinian people.
Your pro-zionist claptrap would be a joke if it were not so childishly pathetic, and such an obvious lie.
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March 10th, 2012  
VDKMS
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by senojekips
I get it but obviously you don't. For a start, as usual your answer was nothing to do with what I said.
Then read the second sentence.

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Your pro-zionist claptrap would be a joke if it were not so childishly pathetic, and such an obvious lie.
Then give me the connection with Boko Haram in Nigeria and Israel, or Al Shabaab in Somalia, or the Taliban in Afghanistan, or Abu Sayyaf in the Phillipines, the islamic terrorism in southern Thailand, and I can go on and on. None of them have anything to do with Israel but with imposing sharia law on (new) muslim ground.
March 10th, 2012  
senojekips
 
 
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Originally Posted by VDKMS
Then read the second sentence.
Then give me the connection with Boko Haram in Nigeria and Israel, or Al Shabaab in Somalia, or the Taliban in Afghanistan, or Abu Sayyaf in the Phillipines, the islamic terrorism in southern Thailand, and I can go on and on. None of them have anything to do with Israel but with imposing sharia law on (new) muslim ground.
Ahhhh,... why are you always so eager to display your ignorance,.. or is it just plain dumb arrogance. They are all as a result of the resurgence of fundamentalist Islamic practices and beliefs, and all trace back to the US support of Palestine's occupation.
March 10th, 2012  
MontyB
 
 
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Originally Posted by senojekips
Ahhhh,... why are you always so eager to display your ignorance,.. or is it just plain dumb arrogance. They are all as a result of the resurgence of fundamentalist Islamic practices and beliefs, and all trace back to the US support of Palestine's occupation.
I am not sure I agree, the escalation of this mess can be traced back to the creation of Israel in 1947 I accept that the US involvement in subsequent years has added to the frustration and prevented any settlement which may be responsible for the level of extremism we see today but to say the US is totally responsible for this mess is not entirely accurate.
March 11th, 2012  
senojekips
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MontyB
I am not sure I agree, the escalation of this mess can be traced back to the creation of Israel in 1947 I accept that the US involvement in subsequent years has added to the frustration and prevented any settlement which may be responsible for the level of extremism we see today but to say the US is totally responsible for this mess is not entirely accurate.
I can live with that.

After all, without the formation of Israel, the support of the US would never have been possible.
March 11th, 2012  
VDKMS
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by senojekips
Ahhhh,... why are you always so eager to display your ignorance,.. or is it just plain dumb arrogance. They are all as a result of the resurgence of fundamentalist Islamic practices and beliefs, and all trace back to the US support of Palestine's occupation.
Show me the traces.
March 11th, 2012  
VDKMS
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MontyB
I am not sure I agree, the escalation of this mess can be traced back to the creation of Israel in 1947 I accept that the US involvement in subsequent years has added to the frustration and prevented any settlement which may be responsible for the level of extremism we see today but to say the US is totally responsible for this mess is not entirely accurate.
The escalation of this mess can be traced back to this exact date and event : Saturday, March 13, 624 AD - Battle of Badr.
March 11th, 2012  
senojekips
 
 
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Originally Posted by VDKMS
Show me the traces.
Try Google.
 


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