So why do people hate Israel? - Page 29




 
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January 11th, 2012  
VDKMS
 
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Originally Posted by Ghostrider
It would be more interesting to follow up on the surveys. There were two here now. Do you have more than two? To see if the view changes over a longer period of time, further, to see if an "event" influences the perception of Israel/Israelis and Palestine/Palestinians
I found a link (here) where you can see the results of the same poll over different years. The general impression is that Israel gets a little better and the Palestinians a little worse. I think this is because of the relentless rocket attacks on Israeli civilian towns and the sermons to destroy Israel. Most people see the Israeli attacks as a retaliation.
We have to wait to see if Khaled Mashal succeeds in stopping the rocket attacks and to transform the anger in peaceful demonstrations.
I hope he can, because then we will see who the culprit was.
January 11th, 2012  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by VDKMS
I found a link (here) where you can see the results of the same poll over different years. The general impression is that Israel gets a little better and the Palestinians a little worse. I think this is because of the relentless rocket attacks on Israeli civilian towns and the sermons to destroy Israel. Most people see the Israeli attacks as a retaliation.
We have to wait to see if Khaled Mashal succeeds in stopping the rocket attacks and to transform the anger in peaceful demonstrations.
I hope he can, because then we will see who the culprit was.
I agree with you, however, these surveys, similar as the surveys prior an election only show an indication of people's opinions
January 11th, 2012  
shuban
 
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Originally Posted by LeEnfield
One old newspaper hack once said to me, "Any news is good news but bad news is even better" and bad news sells papers and increases the numbers watching events unfold on TV
You're definitely right said.
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January 12th, 2012  
VDKMS
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghostrider
I agree with you, however, these surveys, similar as the surveys prior an election only show an indication of people's opinions
Correct, a poll , like a plan, is never foolproof. But without it you are blind. They do give you a better view of what is going on than pro or contra media.
January 12th, 2012  
senojekips
 
 
This is why civilised people hate Israel.

Soldiers Deliberately Undermine the Law
January 13th, 2012  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
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Originally Posted by senojekips
This is why civilised people hate Israel.

Soldiers Deliberately Undermine the Law
So what is going on here, I do not know, I can not comprehend their language. They can be arguing about a goat? Or the price of tea in China.......
January 13th, 2012  
senojekips
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghostrider
So what is going on here, I do not know, I can not comprehend their language. They can be arguing about a goat? Or the price of tea in China.......
The title might be a good clue,... also notice the Hebrew/English comment below about "Judenrein".

Here's a similar gathering of "peaceful Settlers" deliberately provoking the Palestinians in Hebron.

Settlers Provoke Palestinians
January 13th, 2012  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by senojekips
The title might be a good clue,... also notice the Hebrew/English comment below about "Judenrein".

Here's a similar gathering of "peaceful Settlers" deliberately provoking the Palestinians in Hebron.

Settlers Provoke Palestinians
Much better, thank you, mate. My Hebrew/Arabic is non existent
January 14th, 2012  
VDKMS
 
Another reason why people hate Israel is envy.

According to anti-zionists this tiny country is able to put a lot of pressure on a big superpower! There are worldwide 13,5 million jews. 5,7 million live in Israel and 5,3 million live in the USA. And those 5,3 million are able to put a lot of pressure on 312 million americans. Quite a performance I must say.
There are worldwide 11 milion Palestinians, 7,5 million of them live in the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem. They are not able to put pressure on any country.

In 1948 Israel was attacked by Palestinian regulars and armies from Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq. The plan: destroy Israel. Result: humiliation. The Arabs tried it several times again to no avail. A tiny country beating the Arab world each and every time. Later on superpower USA supplied Israel with weapons. Superpower USSR supplied the Arabs with weapons and pilots, still to no avail. At last Jordan and Egypt made peace with Israel. They lived very peacefull after that. Syria is technically still at war with Israel but doesn't attack. They are left alone by Israel. Arafat made peace with Israel and the people in the West Bank live rather peacefully, except for some annoying settlers and checkpoints to catch terrorists. Only Hamas keeps on fighting and gets beaten each and every time.

In 1948 there could have been two more states. Israel accepted and started building. The Palestinians refused and lived in misery. The World Bank estimates the nominal GDP (in millions of USD) of the Palestinian territories at 13.000 and of Israel at 217.333. Per capita these numbers are respectively 2,900 US$ and 32,297 US$ per year. Do not forget that they both lived in the same region and that the split was made according to population.
Oh, sorry, I forgot the blockade. It is estimated that Israeli businesses lost $2 million a day from the closing while Gaza was losing approximately $1 million a day. (The New York Times, September 19, 2007)

Israel builds its own missiles, so do the Palestinians. Israel has state of the art AA and AS missiles and even an anti-BM system. The Palestinians are still making WWII era Katyusha rockets. Israel uses its GPS and laser guide missiles to destroy specific Hamas targets. Because they hide themselves among the civilian population , innocent civilians die. The Palestinian rockets are unguided and only used against Israeli civilian towns, only innocent civilians die.

Last but not least, famous jews. Unfortunately the list is to long, so I give a link. And here's a list of Palestinians. I don't know many of them, and here is a list of Arab scientists and scholars, all lived a long time ago.
January 14th, 2012  
senojekips
 
 
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Originally Posted by Ghostrider
Much better, thank you, mate. My Hebrew/Arabic is non existent
There is no other way to describe these animals. They steal and occupy the land of another people whilst being protected by the IDF who protect them but not the Palestinians, and not satisfied with that, they insist on provoking the owners by demonstrating that with an armed escort they are free to follow them to their new homes and deliberately humiliate them further.

These same mongrels are the first to scream for the sympathy vote when a suicide bomber kills some of their number, by claiming "but we are civilians".

And some here wonder why people have no sympathy for Israel and why it and it's followers are despised and detested around the world.
 


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