BritinBritain
Per Ardua Ad Astra
I reckon this thread has got to be a record.
So why do people hate Israel?
fireoverwater
New Member
Zhaldev, you have your wires a bit crossed.
The aboriginals who make up less than 0.5% of the population, receive in excess of 2 billion dollars per year and by law have to be consulted and paid regarding anything to do with land in this country.
Aboriginals have the same rights as ever other person in this country but choose to cry racism at every turn because they can't accept the truth and are too lazy to get of their backsides and work for a living as the rest of us do.
As for the Palestinians - they were forced from their land and treated like ( and continue to be ) second class citizens with no rights what so ever over lands they have lived on for centuries.
The reason Israel is hated so much is they've gone out of their way to subjugate the palestinians in much the same was as the Nazi's tried to destroy the jews.
For some reason they believe that they are a law unto themselves and are entitled to do ANYTHING to further their nation.
If any country knows what its like to be persecuted, it's israel: they should know better
The aboriginals who make up less than 0.5% of the population, receive in excess of 2 billion dollars per year and by law have to be consulted and paid regarding anything to do with land in this country.
Aboriginals have the same rights as ever other person in this country but choose to cry racism at every turn because they can't accept the truth and are too lazy to get of their backsides and work for a living as the rest of us do.
As for the Palestinians - they were forced from their land and treated like ( and continue to be ) second class citizens with no rights what so ever over lands they have lived on for centuries.
The reason Israel is hated so much is they've gone out of their way to subjugate the palestinians in much the same was as the Nazi's tried to destroy the jews.
For some reason they believe that they are a law unto themselves and are entitled to do ANYTHING to further their nation.
If any country knows what its like to be persecuted, it's israel: they should know better
RayManKiller3
Active member
Here is a series of questions I have for you.
Which Palestinians are you talking about when you say "treated like second class citizens with no rights what so ever"? If you are talking about the Israeli Arabs then please provide a source that this is evident in enough numbers for us to be worried about it.
It is difficult to call Arabs that has "Palestinian" heritage "Palestinian" if they are citizens of Israel.
What is up with people trying to compare this to the Nazis? They are completely off in similarity and scale. Please explain since you want to compare it why it is similiar.
Also hatred of Israel is in the minority, this is why I use critics of Israel instead of hatred.
I think your forgetting that most countries act/acted like Israel and would do the same thing.
senojekips
Active member
They are not true citizens of Israel, as the do not share the same privileges as Jewish citizens The subjugation of a people is no less abhorrent because of numbers involved. That is if you consider the 1,413,500 Palestinians in Israel in 2006 as an insignificant number.
It is done because it is the most accurate comparison that can be made.
Any country that has, is just as guilty. The main difference being that most other first world countries stopped doing it 100 years ago, whereas Israel continues to this day.
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Arabs in Israel have equal rights under the law
Arabs in Israel can vote for whoever they want
Arabs in Israel can worship freely
Arabs in Israel are entitled to the full same state education as all other Israelis
Arabs are members of the Israeli parliament and ministers in the government
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You're talking about the 1948 war? Not all Palestinians were forced from their land. Some left before the war, others left and came back after the war, others (most) were advised to leave and come back when Israel was destroyed, some were evicted. No one has the exact figures. Palestinians in Israel are far better treated than Israelis in Arab countries.
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I you believe this then you do not know what the nazi-regime was like.
They'll do everything to protect their nation.
They know better, but the muslim fundamentalists don't.
senojekips
Active member
He was talking about the Israelis, not Muslim fundamentalists that would never have been a worry had Israel not occupied Palestine. The only thing that the Israelis learned from the repression of Jews in Europe, was how to emulate it upon another people.
If you are going to tell lies, at least have the common decency to not treat the readers here as if they were too stupid to know the truth. We've already been over this, haven't we, yet you continue to reiterate the same old lies. Is it that you are too brainwashed, or too stupid to realise that they are so easily disproven.
Middle East Monitor said:
Washington Post said:
Human rights Watch said:
Washington Post said:
I see no purpose in continuing. Your lies are both blatant and childishly naive.
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senojekips
Active member
Payback? You talk like a stone age tribesman from the New Guinea highlands. payback is 130+ years out of date
I don't know about you, but the rest of the world has moved on since then, and put laws in place to hopefully stop it from happening again. These are the laws that Israel is ignoring.
Aboriginals speared my wife's Great Uncle, that does not give me the right to kill an Aboriginal in return.
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Muslim fundamentalist want sharia law all over the world. They are against Israel because it is founded on muslim ground. If it was a christian country it would be the same.
I'm not brainwashed, you are. What you call lies are facts you don't like.
BTW I don't need to distort the facts to prove I'm right.
The article also says that 48% of Israel's Arab citizens are dissatisfied with their lives in the Jewish state, that means 52% are satisfied.
Did you follow up the case?
"On 13 September 2011, the Supreme Court of Israel accepted a petition filed by Adalah on behalf of married Arab couple Ms. Fatina Ebriq Zubeidat and Mr. Ahmed Zubeidat against the community town of Rakefet and the Israel Land Authority (ILA). The Court ordered the town to award a plot of land to the Zubeidat's for building a house in Rakefet within 90 days. " ADALAH PRESS RELEASE 14 September 2011
It seems that palestinians are not liked in other countries either:
Lebanon: Seize Opportunity to End Discrimination Against Palestinians : Remove Restrictions on Owning Property and Working
Jordan: Stop Withdrawing Nationality from Palestinian-Origin Citizens : Authorities Arbitrarily Withdraw Nationality From More Than 2,700; Hundreds of Thousands at Risk
Palestinian Authority: Lift the Ban on Al Jazeera : Suspension and Threatened Prosecution of Network’s Bureau a Blow to Press Freedom
Gaza: Lift Restrictions on Books, Newspapers : End Confiscations for “Immoral” Content, Bans on Journals Backing Rivals
If you don't like the facts then I see no purpose for you to continue.
senojekips
Active member
For a start, if it were a christian country, I doubt that Israel would ever have been in Palestine, for a start the Israelis would never have gotten the US support that has backed them all this time.
We've already shown this to be untrue. Palestine is not just Muslim, it is Muslim, Christian, Jewish and probably a dozen other religions, all of which want their land back. You are just grasping at straws, and I won't bother going any further as you are now just recycling your already disproven lies.
And who compiled this amazing survey? You are getting more childishly idiotic by the day.
And why did they only award it only after the matter was bought to world attention?
You see we're not the idiots you might suppose here. You Zionist excuse book must be getting out of date.
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I3BrigPvSk
The Viking
Christians and jews are tolerated in muslim countries but they are not allowed to have a country for themselves on muslim land.
So the article you linked to is not correct?
They were awarded it because rule of law works in Israel. But rule of law is not your thing is it?
If you think you're an idiot, that's fine for me. I just present facts and if you don't like it that's your problem, not mine.
senojekips
Active member
I notice that the Belgians didn't hold up their hand to give away any of their country either? My Great Grandfather had no problems with Muslims, he employed several families of them.
Not when it comes to Palestinian satisfaction.
No it wasn't, it was an attempt to stifle criticism of Zionist repression.
Rule of Law? You mean like Roland Freisler administered, and Israel is still carrying out?... No,... I'm not real keen on it. the rest of the world calls it a rule of repression and terror
You didn't read what I said did you?
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senojekips
Active member
I've been short with my answers now for a week or two as I have had better things to do.
This morning I received notification that this has now developed into a new and hopefully even more exciting long range project which will further reduce the time I can spend on the Zionazi Merry go round.
This morning I received notification that this has now developed into a new and hopefully even more exciting long range project which will further reduce the time I can spend on the Zionazi Merry go round.
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BritinBritain
Per Ardua Ad Astra
Sounds good Spike, care to share?
senojekips
Active member
I've been asked by a rather unconventional property developer to do some drafting for him and act as local contact person and general dogsbody, as he and his workmen refurbish an old two story hotel.
He has had no real formal qualifications, but has made himself a multimillion dollar enterprise including everything from Building salvage, Earth moving, brick making, cut stone sales, a Dairy farm, and his wife has a Boutique Brewery and Winery in the Adelaide hills.
My main job is to record and photograph all of the new pipework and wiring throughout the building and provide accurate working drawings for future reference and liase with the local council inspectors day to day. Every light switch, power socket, tap, drain or bidet.
I first met him about 8 months ago when I noticed two persons entering an old disused hotel in or town, and after finding he was the new owner, asked if I could take a series of photos of the building inside and out for our local History Group. Since then I have done a few small jobs for him and generally kept an eye on the place when he has no one working up here.
He's an original. When you walk on site he's indistinguishable from his labourers and tradies, often as not, in the mud on his hands and knees, doing whatever he feels needs doing.
He's not your traditional self made multi millionaire, but he's an ideal boss. He'd never ask anything of anyone he wasn't prepared (and very willing) to do himself. Very quietly spoken, and hates posing for photos.
I think the next year is going to be busy.
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BritinBritain
Per Ardua Ad Astra
Sounds Brilliant mate, good luck you clever old bugger.
WHOA,Do we have Islamic symphaizers here, there are some strange thoughts here.What do you expect them to be,they are shackled by the U.N. they cannot have their own city of jerusalem yes theirs since Before Christ about 1000 yrs before Islam. They cannot have their most Holy of Holies the Temple on the Mount, why? because the Muslims have put a mosque there.They are surrounded by people who want to destroy them,and people here want them to be kind hearted turn the other cheek, Bull dust take back Jerusalem send the Muslims to egypt etc pull down the Al Asqua Mosque number the stones and send it to the Arabs,then they can build the temple.