So why do people hate Israel? - Page 139




 
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May 14th, 2013  
BritinBritain
 
 
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Originally Posted by Del Boy
Talking in front of the mirror again Seno! Yes, precisely what has always struck me regarding the man who would be a Jew! All of the complaints he directs at those who do not agree with him amount to an easily recognisable image of himself!

I have tried to explain to him why I have found him completely unacceptable as a Jew.

I must try not to be too hard on him in that respect, so I can offer him the chance to redeem himself. The ultimate test I always use in such cases is this one.

He must be able to learn and sing this important Jewish anthem:-

" My Yidishire Momma - I miss her more than ever now.
My Yidishire Momma - I long to kiss her wrinkled brow.
For I know that I owe all I am today
To that dear old lady, so wrinkled and grey.
To my wonderful Yidishire Momma,
Momma - Momma mine!"

He can try that for size!
Del Boy get back in your coffin you are being silly again.

Whomever keeps removing the wooden stake, will you please stop it.
May 14th, 2013  
Del Boy
 
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Originally Posted by BritinAfrica
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And this is from someone who argued that there was no a statue of Nelson Mandela, a terrorist by the way, in Parliament Square in London, his own city!
Show me where this alleged argument is posted or shut the fuk up ,troutmouth.

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Originally Posted by BritinAfrica
Thats because some idiot keeps taking the wooden stake out.
A sad story really, have you forgotten already? That stake was the one they rammed hard right up your rectum.

Hence your moniker - ShitinAfrica.
May 14th, 2013  
VDKMS
 
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Originally Posted by senojekips
As has been pointed out numerous times already self defence in your own homeland is no crime, and in view of what has happened since absolutely understandable. It was no more ethnic cleansing than the harassment and murder of Germans in occupied territories was ethnic cleansing in World War II. Exactly the same thing happened in occupied countries in Europe where Germans who had lived there for generations were attacked and killed.

In hindsite it was all very much deserved, obviously these "dumb Arabs" were not a stupid as you imagined and could see the writing on the wall.
Your infinitesimal little knowledge of the conflict is mind blowing.

Don't you know that most Arabs fighting against the Jews did not came from Palestine? They were not defending their homeland! They were even fighting against Arabs born in "Palestine".

Don't you know that Hajj Amin El Husseini's Al Futuwwa (officially designated "Nazi Scouts") liquidated most of the Palestinian opposition to the Arab Riots of the late 1930′s, especially the Nashashibi and Nusseibeh families.

From Nathan Weinstock in Zionism: False Messiah, (sorry seno, but that anti-zionist changed partners)
"During the 1936-39 Revolt Husseini’s guerillas actually executed ‘traitors,’ but ‘at the same time a close relative of the Mufti was doing a brisk trade in precisely such allegedly criminal deals, but with a notable difference, for this person used to force sales from Arab small-holders at niggardly prices and then resell to the Jews at the usual exorbitant rates...’ In other words, hyper-nationalist propaganda became a lucrative industry, indeed even an American-style racket, for the Arab gentry.”


Are you aware that no "Palestinians" fought for the liberation of "their" country against the Turks? Jews did. They even fought shoulder to shoulder with the British and Australians at Gallipoli. If you don't fight for your country then you don't deserve it.
Did you know that the Jewish Battalion had to protect the British supply lines in "Palestine" after tha ANZAC's were ordered to Egypt and the Indian and Sout Africans were being demobilised. No problems with the local Arabs whatsoever.
They protected a huge ammunition depot at Rafa with no problems. When the British took over it was blown up with considerable loss of life.
And what did they get from the GHQ ?
"The walled city (of Jerusalem) is placed out of bounds to all Jewish soldiers from the 14th to the 22nd April, inclusive"
Not since the days of the Emperor Hadrian had such a humiliating decree been issued. It was only the beginning. Read the book "With the Judaeans in the Palestine campaign" written by Lieutenant Colonel John Patterson in 1922 and you will understand why the Jews started to hate the British.
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May 14th, 2013  
senojekips
 
 
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Originally Posted by VDKMS
Are you aware that no "Palestinians" fought for the liberation of "their" country against the Turks? Jews did. They even fought shoulder to shoulder with the British and Australians at Gallipoli. If you don't fight for your country then you don't deserve it.
And where in any agreement does it say that?... It doesn't, you are merely making it up, as you do nearly everything else.

Other than that, it's just a typical blatant Zionazi lie,... If no Palestinians fought for the liberation of their country against the Turks, who were the mysterious Arab irregulars working with T.E. Lawrence during WWI, whose actions against the Turks were so famous that a movie was made about them?

During WWII my father in law spent time in Palestine training for the defence of El Alamein, he was of the same opinion I am, that the Palestinians were a hospitable and honorable people who were being used as a political football and taken advantage of by both sides, terrorised by Zionists and given little real help by the Brits.

I see you are still resorting to the old Hasbara Troll ploy of substituting the word "Jews' for Zionists in an attempt to muddy the waters.
As for the Zionists back stabbing the Brits, or anyone else for that matter.
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Late in 1940, Lehi, having identified a common interest between the intentions of the new German order and Jewish national aspirations, proposed forming an alliance in World War II with Nazi Germany.[38] It offered assistance in transferring the Jews of Europe to Palestine, in return for Germany's help in expelling Britain from Mandatory Palestine. Late in 1940, Lehi representative Naftali Lubenchik went to Beirut to meet German official Werner Otto von Hentig (who also was involved with the Haavara or Transfer Agreement, which had been transferring German Jews and their funds to Palestine since 1933). Lubenchik told von Hentig that Lehi had not yet revealed its full power and that they were capable of organizing a whole range of anti-British operations.

On the assumption that the destruction of Britain was the Germans' top objective, the organization offered cooperation in the following terms. Lehi would support sabotage and espionage operations in the Middle East and in eastern Europe anywhere where they had cells.
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Originally Posted by The Telegraph
Major James Robertson, from the agency's Middle East section, said threats made by Bet-Zuri in November 1944 were disclosed by another member of the Stern Gang who was arrested in April 1945.

The suspect revealed: "As soon as he [Bet-Zuri] returned to Stern Group headquarters he proposed to suggest a plan for the assassination of highly placed British political personalities, including Mr Churchill, for which purpose emissaries should be sent to London."
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Andrew Adler, the owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times, a weekly newspaper serving Atlanta's Jewish community, devoted his January 13, 2012 column to the thorny problem of the U.S. and Israel's diverging views on the threat posed by Iran. Basically Israel has three options, he wrote: Strike Hezbollah and Hamas, strike Iran, or "order a hit" on Barack Obama. Either way, problem solved!
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Here's how Adler laid out "option three" in his list of scenarios facing Israeli president Benjamin Netanyahu, (the column, which was forwarded to us by a tipster, isn't online, but you can read a copy here):

Three, give the go-ahead for U.S.-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president to take his place, and forcefully dictate that the United States' policy includes its helping the Jewish state obliterate its enemies.
May 15th, 2013  
BritinBritain
 
 
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Originally Posted by Del Boy
Show me where this alleged argument is posted or shut the fuk up ,troutmouth.
Alleged? Suffering from Alzheimers numbnut? Oh you forget so soon, even your mate Lee Enflield contacted me to state that there was indeed a statue of Mandela. You tried to make me look stupid, when it fact it made you look ever more stupid then you already are. You are a man who always sticks by his convictions. You will remain a fool no matter how much you get ridiculed for it!*

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Originally Posted by Del Boy
A sad story really, have you forgotten already? That stake was the one they rammed hard right up your rectum.
You make me believe in reincarnation. Nobody can be as stupid as you in one lifetime.

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Originally Posted by Del Boy
Hence your moniker - ShitinAfrica.
You are such a moronic cretin. You are nothing like the character Del Boy in Fools and Horses as you make out to be, you are nothing but a pathetic little man with idea's well above above your station. All I can say is "Thank God that all Englishmen are not like you."

You have an inferiority complex -- and it's fully justified.*
May 15th, 2013  
VDKMS
 
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Originally Posted by senojekips
And where in any agreement does it say that?... It doesn't, you are merely making it up, as you do nearly everything else.
Again you are reading things that are not written. The bold sentence was my expression, nowhere it is said it was part of an agreement. But if you don't fight for your country you don't care who rules it.

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Other than that, it's just a typical blatant Zionazi lie,... If no Palestinians fought for the liberation of their country against the Turks, who were the mysterious Arab irregulars working with T.E. Lawrence during WWI, whose actions against the Turks were so famous that a movie was made about them?
T.E. Lawrence never fought in Palestine but in Jordan and Syria. His Arab soldiers and irregulars didn't come from Palestine and most were under the command of Emir Faisal (Saudi Arabia). Most Arabs fighting with Allenby's Egyptian Expeditionary Force were Bedouins (remember, the ones who used to terrorise Palestinian farmers). Allenby's 38th and 39th Battalion Royal Fusiliers were Jewish battalions.
Better learn some history before using Nazi tactics: first accuse the other of lying then counter with a lie yourself.

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During WWII my father in law spent time in Palestine training for the defence of El Alamein, he was of the same opinion I am, that the Palestinians were a hospitable and honorable people who were being used as a political football and taken advantage of by both sides, terrorised by Zionists and given little real help by the Brits.
Jews in Palestine got along well with the Palestinian farmers. It was the fanatical clerics who started the trouble and the British later joined them to safeguard their position in the ME.

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I see you are still resorting to the old Hasbara Troll ploy of substituting the word "Jews' for Zionists in an attempt to muddy the waters.
As for the Zionists back stabbing the Brits, or anyone else for that matter.
All Zionist are Jews but not all Jews are Zionists. So I call them all Jews because the term Zionists doesn't mean all the Jews. Being a Zionist or not is a personal choice. Better read that book written by Lieutenant Colonel John Patterson. I gave you the link already.

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Originally Posted by BritinAfrica
Alleged? Suffering from Alzheimers numbnut? Oh you forget so soon, even your mate Lee Enflield contacted me to state that there was indeed a statue of Mandela. You tried to make me look stupid, when it fact it made you look ever more stupid then you already are. You are a man who always sticks by his convictions. You will remain a fool no matter how much you get ridiculed for it!*
Then give the link of the thread where he said that. I did a search for "statue of Mandela" in Del Boys posts and only two quotes of your recent postings were shown. Here and here.
May 15th, 2013  
Del Boy
 
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Originally Posted by BritinAfrica
Alleged? Suffering from Alzheimers numbnut? Oh you forget so soon, even your mate Lee Enflield contacted me to state that there was indeed a statue of Mandela. You tried to make me look stupid, when it fact it made you look ever more stupid then you already are. You are a man who always sticks by his convictions. You will remain a fool no matter how much you get ridiculed for it!*
Oh dear, what a prat you are, to be sure - in love with yourself. As I said before - I get fed up casting pearls before swine .

C'mon then - Show me the alleged argument ShitinAfrica. I never try to make you look stupid, you take care of that for me. Show us the info! Otherwise S.T.F.U.


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Originally Posted by BritinAfrica

You are such a moronic cretin. You are nothing like the character Del Boy in Fools and Horses as you make out to be, you are nothing but a pathetic little man with idea's well above above your station. All I can say is "Thank God that all Englishmen are not like you."

You have an inferiority complex -- and it's fully justified.*
You are losing it, ShitinAfrica. 'Moronic cretin?' - you know nothing of me! And what is this thing you have with my user name ? Who is it you seem to have a fancy with and who is not me? Del-Boy my user name - that was me - Delivery Boy, get it? The kid who brings the papers in! Through the sawmills and cabinet makers of the East End,every day. Just stop trying to match me against your fancy men. Whoever your fancy is - I have no wish be him.

Pathetic ? You don't know me you prat.

Little? Far from it according to my doctors!

I am pleased that you admire my ideas. Thank you.

'Well above my station?' - What station would that be then, Waterloo? Please enlighten me.

Having put me up as a Superiority Complex candidate, you immediately smash your argument to bits by summing me up as an Inferiority Complex candidate. ???? Of course, it would be impossible to feel inferior to you .

As you are so concerned with my health, let me put whatever info. I have at your disposal.

Head to toe - Current examination reveals - Head/Brain fine and strong.
Eyes - 2- 2 eyelid ops. Eyes fit and strong, review in 2 years. Teeth , fine condition- hygeine applauded. One hip replaced and doing fine, other one awaiting replacement to get me back on the soccer field.

So - except for 10 years of Parkinson's, incurable at present, just like Mohammed Ali and Michael J. Fox, all is quiet on the Western Front.

So 60 years of a wonderful marriage, five kids and spouses, eleven grandchildren; a life of music and laughter and sport. Respect from all who know me in business and religion as a man of honour. I am a Roman Catholic.

So there you have it - fire away. Nothing scares me and I certainly lose no sleep over ShitinAfrica and his band-wagon attempt to ridicule me.
May 15th, 2013  
senojekips
 
 
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Originally Posted by VDKMS
Again you are reading things that are not written. The bold sentence was my expression, nowhere it is said it was part of an agreement. But if you don't fight for your country you don't care who rules it.
That's exactly what I said,.... you are making things up as you go along.
If the Arabs never fought for their land how come the Zionazis have claimed on numerous occasions that the the Zionist atrocities committed in pre-State Israel were to counter Arab attacks on Jews, now you are trying to say they would not fight for their country? (They never had any Armed Forces)
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Originally Posted by The Peel Commission
"From late 1919, Arab attacks on Jewish settlements became more frequent and relentless, particularly in the Jordan Valley and the Galilee."

"As early as 1920, Palestine Arab opposition to Zionism and desire for self-government led to a threat to public security. ... three days of rioting in Jerusalem, in which Arab mobs fell upon Jews with sticks, stones and knives. The Arab Police either adopted a passive attitude or joined in the riots. British troops were called out, the police were disarmed and order was finally reestablished. As a result of these disturbances, five Jews and four Arabs were killed and 211 Jews and 21 Arabs were wounded."3
You can't have it both ways.

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Originally Posted by VDKMS
T.E. Lawrence never fought in Palestine
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Thomas Edward Lawrence, CB, DSO (16 August 1888[5] – 19 May 1935), known professionally as T. E. Lawrence, was a British Army officer renowned especially for his liaison role during the Sinai and Palestine Campaign
And you are still making things up,... poorly.
May 16th, 2013  
Del Boy
 
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Originally Posted by BritinAfrica
Of course I'm in love with myself. Its no wonder Spike has you on ignore, trying to debate with a cretin like you is soul destroying.
SHITinAFRICA.

Huh. You call that crap debate? I told Spike to be my guest with his ignore button.

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Originally Posted by britinafrica
You keep mentioning ShitinAfrica and my rectum, are you finally coming out of the closet Gay Boy. I'd love to see you try make shut me up, oh boy would I.
ShitinAfrica . Your name I believe. I put your stake where it belonged in context.
But homosexual references have been used by yourself - it does make one wonder about your own tastes; rectum and closets, gay boys, advice on where to meet up for business at stations, etc. I never lie. Just leave me out of your darker side.

Now then - time to man up - show me the argument re. Mandela that you quoted.
May 16th, 2013  
VDKMS
 
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Originally Posted by senojekips
If the Arabs never fought for their land how come the Zionazis have claimed on numerous occasions that the the Zionist atrocities committed in pre-State Israel were to counter Arab attacks on Jews, now you are trying to say they would not fight for their country? (They never had any Armed Forces)
They were not fighting for their country, they only wanted the Jews out. They didn't care if the Jews they killed lived their for much longer than they did or if they came from abroad. In their attacks they were also helped by Arab police.

The battle of Tel HaiOn (now northern Israel) on March 1, 1920 was fought by Arab irregulars under the banner of the Arab Kingdom of Syria and Bedouins from a nearby village.

Thousands of non Palestinian Arab troops were already in Palestine ready to attack the Jews.

See, that's what you get if you only read the first few lines of what we post or link. Better reread my post #17 in the thread About Palestinians: Aggressors, Not Victims

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You can't have it both ways.
Self government stands for Arab Islamic government not Palestinian. Why do you think the Arab nations attacked Israel before and after its decleration of independence? To help the Palestinians? Forget it, otherwise they would have helped them after their defeat.

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Thomas Edward Lawrence, CB, DSO (16 August 1888[5] – 19 May 1935), known professionally as T. E. Lawrence, was a British Army officer renowned especially for his liaison role during the Sinai and Palestine Campaign
As a former military I think you must know what that means, don't you?

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And you are still making things up,... poorly.
Who's making things up???
 


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