Originally Posted by Salient

I know this is not exactly about sniper rifle but what can anyone tell me about Carlos Hathcock? Please excuse rank as Im not sure what his rank was. All I know was that he was one of the top USMC snipers.

Salient, I watched "Sniper" on the History Channel and if my poor old brain wasn't malfunctioning at the time, I think they said Carlos bought his own, a Remington, but I don't recall the caliber but it was probably .308.

I think if I was inclined to train as a sniper, I would have to pick something smaller and lighter than an anti-tank weapon. These poor guys have to crawl close enough to a group of trained spotters for a shot to even qualify for training. In some things bigger is better but in rifles, 7mm is enough for me. Remember, James Bond favored a .32 cal. beretta auto. I think that was to demonstrate that he was confident enough in his manhood not to need anything larger.

Actually the first Rifle used by Gunny Hathcock was a Winchester Model 70 (PRE 64) chambered for the 30-06 round and the ammo was Lake City Match Grade.

Well Jason, upon further research I have discovered that the same dictionary that states your definition for sniper rifle also states the same exact definition for precision rifle, and Hot-diggity-damn am I pleased to find out that my .22lr CZ 452 Lux Precision Rifle is "an extremely powerful rifle developed for the military; capable of destroying light armored vehicles and aircraft more than a mile away". So I guess that shows what an inanimate object written by people with next to no knowledge on military subjects called the "Dictionary" knows. Oh wait, Why am I telling you this? You already stated it so clearly yourself.

If that .408 Cheytac rifle is supposed to be a standard caliber sniper rifle and not large caliber like 12.7mm or bigger then its a little bit too heavy for its role after all cheytac weights 12kg and barret m82 is about 13kg unloaded so Im just wondering which one is more practical

Originally Posted by EagleStrike

Hmmm

Standard Caliber = http://www.world.guns.ru/sniper/sn63-e.htm
Cheytac Intervention

It uses a PDA on the scope? Sure hope he's not using Windows on that PDA - might get all screwy

Yeah, I seen another scope that uses PDA input, it's called the Horus Vision. I really like the concept. http://www.horusvision.com/hv.cfm?pg=pimain

I like!!!

Hmmm...

Having built more than a few Sub MOA rifles such as: M1D, M1NM, M1A NM, M1903A3, Mini 14s, Remington 600 and 700s, a bench rest rifle made from an XP100, a 45/70 Remington rolling block, and three SKSs I won't call my self an expert on sniping but I do know how to build a damn fine rifle. There are lots of great rifles out there but I always thought that there is no such thing as a "best" sniper rifle.

Let me explain my reasoning. Honestly if I wanted to make a long distance kill I'd use a use a tank gun. I've hit troop targets out to 3200m with 105 sabot from a M60A3 at night. If I wanted to do something close I'd use a T/C Contender in .22 Hornet. Close and quiet a Supressed 22lr bolt gun. What I'm getting to is that you use the best tool for the job.

It's the shooter that makes the gun great. I built a super tight **** hair from not closing chamber 308 win. remington 700. One of my best guns ever. Brand new match reamer that cut the fluted Hart barrel like butter. I had trued the action so everything was in alignment. Pulled every trick in the book and a few not in it on it. This thing cut a single ragged hole with 5 rounds in targets out to 300 meters all day long and the price tab was $4K parts and labor in "92". I give to the customer and two days later he's on the phone bitching at me. I have him come in and he brings in a target that looks like it was shot with 00buckshot at 60 yards. We take the gun to the range after I cleaned it. Both me and my boss shoot it with factory ammo. Flawless. The customer looks at us like it was some sort of trick. He gets behind the butt loads his own special loads and can't hit shit. I'm a good shot but that gun made me look great. Give a great shot the same gun and look out.

I will say this if the gun is built on a Remington action by a good smith you can't go wrong. My caliber choice would be .338 Winchester Magnum that headspaces on the neck not the belt. The .300 win mag and 7mm rem mag are nice but the 338 is king.

Here is Chinese 12.7mm .50caliber sniper. Don't have much information on it, but it seems the scope is kinda in the wrong place?

BullPup design for the M82A2



M82A1