Seven-year-old Son of Massachusetts Pro-family Activist Attacked
Missileer
Active member
I thought the Voting Rights Act prevented anyone from infringing on the rights of someone to cast a ballot. I guess the Constitution and Bill of Rights are not color blind after all. The Federal Marshalls usually escort the voter to the polls if they are prevented from participating.
Rob Henderson
Banned
That is complete crap. How can none of the students be suspended when they have witnesses and clear evidence?! This is clear discrimination.They need to terminate the teacher(s) and the principal who let this gross injustice slip away..."displaced agression"...thats just a cover up to let the kids go unpunished for beating a child. I think Parker needs a beating. And so does the teacher who didnt let the kid even go to the nurse...That is just outrageous!
DefiantCdr
Active member
Which Is why I think that political correctness is complete bull. Equal rights means equal rights. All this PC crap takes away from that in my oppinion.
Chief Bones
Forums Grumpy Old Man
Real great parenting ... this isn't just Political Correctness (PC) run amok, this is the proof that hate isn't inherited ... it's taught. The parents of the children that were involved in the attack by their words and actions at home taught their children to hate and that it would be alright to resort to violence ... the children shouldn't be punished ... every parent of these children should be pilloried. In case you don't know what that is ... it's means they would placed in stocks in the village square and their fellow citizens would be allowed the opportunity to make their feelings known, via the rotten fruit and mud that gets thrown at the "sinners".
I realize that this is old fashioned ... but ... I can't for the life of me come up with a more fitting punishment for these parents.
I realize that this is old fashioned ... but ... I can't for the life of me come up with a more fitting punishment for these parents.
Rob Henderson
Banned
Nah, I say quartermastered.(The four horses tied to an arm or leg and then send the horses in opposite directions.)I think that could be fitting.Chief Bones said:
mmarsh
Active member
I dont mean to burst anyone bubble but nowhere in the article does it say the fight broke out because of a fathers political/religous beliefs. It just implies that is the reason due to a coincidential date.
I was a camp consellor for several years at a Boys camp in the Adirondack Mountains in NY. I was in charge of 12x 9 year olds and I while I remember lots of fights, teasings, and Bullings, I don't remember A SINGLE ONE that stemmed as a result of a Political/Religous discussion. Most of my guys didnt even know what a homosexual was (they were 9 not 7). So I have a hard time believing that a bunch of SEVEN YEAR OLDS got together and decided to beatup a boy because HIS DAD is conservative. What do they do next? Go home to discuss possible stock market fluctuations due to the Feds interest rates hikes? :wink:. Lets also be honest, the source of this story is an organisation seems to a far right Christian group. Not exactly the most tolerant bunch of people I have ever met, espically toward gays. One of the other articles on the site is HATE CRIME LAWS THREATEN RELIGOUS FREEDOM (meaning freedom to hate gays according to the article). Oh yeah, real tolerant bunch of folks...
And even on the off chance that was true, what is this group trying to accomplish? Is it really trying to compare Gay on Strieght violent is equal to Strieght on Gay. Because if it is, it might want to recheck its numbers on violent homophobic crimes per year. Matthew Shepard anyone?
I was a camp consellor for several years at a Boys camp in the Adirondack Mountains in NY. I was in charge of 12x 9 year olds and I while I remember lots of fights, teasings, and Bullings, I don't remember A SINGLE ONE that stemmed as a result of a Political/Religous discussion. Most of my guys didnt even know what a homosexual was (they were 9 not 7). So I have a hard time believing that a bunch of SEVEN YEAR OLDS got together and decided to beatup a boy because HIS DAD is conservative. What do they do next? Go home to discuss possible stock market fluctuations due to the Feds interest rates hikes? :wink:. Lets also be honest, the source of this story is an organisation seems to a far right Christian group. Not exactly the most tolerant bunch of people I have ever met, espically toward gays. One of the other articles on the site is HATE CRIME LAWS THREATEN RELIGOUS FREEDOM (meaning freedom to hate gays according to the article). Oh yeah, real tolerant bunch of folks...
And even on the off chance that was true, what is this group trying to accomplish? Is it really trying to compare Gay on Strieght violent is equal to Strieght on Gay. Because if it is, it might want to recheck its numbers on violent homophobic crimes per year. Matthew Shepard anyone?
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DefiantCdr
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I think you're right, 7 year olds don't function at that high a level. But I also think that if Mommy or Daddy are always talking about how horrible someone is, or something along those lines, than it is gong to influence someone who is that young. I don't think the number of violent crimes on a group of people matters. There should be NONE towards any person or group. Just because more violence happens towards one group of people than another, that doesn't mean we should discount all other violence. I think it's inappropriate that the bullies weren't suspended for what they did. Where I live if anyone tried that, they'd be run out of town.
mmarsh
Active member
I agree, but bullying happens everywhere. I got to lots of fistfight at that age and I wasnt suspended nor were my teachers. Kids fight that age. I seriously doubt the episode was political in nature. Its was more likely some schoolyard crisis that you can find in any playground in the world and given the previous anti-homosexual school theatrics of the victims father, I'm guessing that incident was of his creation, there are certain people that just love to play the victim.DefiantCdr said:
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Rob Henderson
Banned
Think its still a coincidence that they beat the kid up on that date?The school made Parker the hated man of the entire system. Parents talk to their kids, kids think they have the power to act on their parents words, bam! the kid gets beat up and no one looks twice at the kid(s) who did it. This is a case of parents ranting, and kids thinking they are in the right. The parents might have said," I wish I could punch that Parker guy in the balls."" And the kid might have thought," Gee, I might not be able to hit the dad, but I can hurt the kid, that would make Mommy and Daddy love me more." Nah, its no coincidence, its just hate.Article said:
Pop-a-squat
Active member
This turn of events is unacceptable and most certainly unlawful. The school staff members involved in this situation, the little punks who beat up on that kid, and especially their parents should be arrested and prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law.
And the teacher who was the playground monitor should definitely be charged. If I were to have been in her shoes, I would have found it very suspicious if I suddenly saw this young boy being "coincidentially" dragged out of my line of sight by a gang of little hooligans, and would have definitely taken action on that. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the fact that she did not do anything about this grounds for child neglect, which is a felony crime?
I'll say this much, Boston's public school system is definitely not anything to write home about, especially after this latest fiasco.
"Tolerance" my rear end.
And the teacher who was the playground monitor should definitely be charged. If I were to have been in her shoes, I would have found it very suspicious if I suddenly saw this young boy being "coincidentially" dragged out of my line of sight by a gang of little hooligans, and would have definitely taken action on that. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the fact that she did not do anything about this grounds for child neglect, which is a felony crime?
I'll say this much, Boston's public school system is definitely not anything to write home about, especially after this latest fiasco.
"Tolerance" my rear end.
What is this supposed to mean? Is this like "forced" feeding? The kids sit there tied to their chairs while the teachers yells the gays are great?! This is so over the top in my opinion. I mean telling that the homosexual marriage is allowed in some countries isn't propagandising kids to become gay, now does it? Or does this man think that if it isn't discussed, it doesn't excist? He says he wants the best for his kid, but selective blindness isn't a trade I'd like to enhance in my child. Or maybe he thinks it is contagious; if you say gay then you get this funny disease? In short; a foolish, uptight, scared for no appearant reason bigot.
5.56X45mm
Milforum Mac Daddy
Okay, so it's not okay for a child to pray to God on his own time in school. It works that way in the US School System. It's okay to read stories to childern about a boy that has two fathers but it's not okay for a child to pray to the good lord on his own time.
Sorry, but I don't want my kids to go to school to learn about homosexuality. I want my kids to go to school to learn about 2+2=4. I don't view homosexuality as something that should get people killed. but I do not approve of it. I don't want queers walking around my son or daughter flaunting it in front of them. If you want to have a homosexual relationship. Go right ahead, do it in the privacy of your own homes. Don't do it near me or my childern. Don't teach it to my childern.
And as a side note, I have a family member that is gay. I still love him.
But you want to know what. He's a scumbag, thief, crack head, and a liar.
He's stolen from me, been arrested for smking crack, been fired for thieft, and has lied to me and others on many occasions. I don't trust him near my God Kids. I don't trust him near my property, and I don't trust the people he hangs out with.
The people that he hangs out with are the "stereotypical" queer. They're crossdressers and they act as femmenine as they can. Sure, I have meet queers that are normal respectible people that I have no problems with.
Infact, I have someone very close to me that is a lesiban. She as known me since I was a child. She has watched me many times and helped raise me. BUT!!!!! She keeps her life style to herself. She has a female lover and they are both very respectible. They are polite, kind, well mannered, and in general, nice folks. I trust her with my God Kids. But she is the expection.
Most other folks that are homosexual that I have meet fall into the first catagory. Folks that I don't approve of and folks that I don't trust to be near my God kids and around me.
Sorry, but I don't want my kids to go to school to learn about homosexuality. I want my kids to go to school to learn about 2+2=4. I don't view homosexuality as something that should get people killed. but I do not approve of it. I don't want queers walking around my son or daughter flaunting it in front of them. If you want to have a homosexual relationship. Go right ahead, do it in the privacy of your own homes. Don't do it near me or my childern. Don't teach it to my childern.
And as a side note, I have a family member that is gay. I still love him.
But you want to know what. He's a scumbag, thief, crack head, and a liar.
He's stolen from me, been arrested for smking crack, been fired for thieft, and has lied to me and others on many occasions. I don't trust him near my God Kids. I don't trust him near my property, and I don't trust the people he hangs out with.
The people that he hangs out with are the "stereotypical" queer. They're crossdressers and they act as femmenine as they can. Sure, I have meet queers that are normal respectible people that I have no problems with.
Infact, I have someone very close to me that is a lesiban. She as known me since I was a child. She has watched me many times and helped raise me. BUT!!!!! She keeps her life style to herself. She has a female lover and they are both very respectible. They are polite, kind, well mannered, and in general, nice folks. I trust her with my God Kids. But she is the expection.
Most other folks that are homosexual that I have meet fall into the first catagory. Folks that I don't approve of and folks that I don't trust to be near my God kids and around me.
Chief Bones
Forums Grumpy Old Man
How the dingbats did this thread suddenly become a "bash the gays" thread???
This thread started out as a discussion about an incident where a little 7 year old had the shit beat out of him by children his own age that had to be taught hate by adults and what that said about the parents and the community where it took place.
Now, apparent homophobes have hijacked this thread to bash gays.
I realize that I am NOT a MOD ... but ... ??????
This thread started out as a discussion about an incident where a little 7 year old had the shit beat out of him by children his own age that had to be taught hate by adults and what that said about the parents and the community where it took place.
Now, apparent homophobes have hijacked this thread to bash gays.
I realize that I am NOT a MOD ... but ... ??????
Pop-a-squat said:
I take it you never worked at a school? If you would arrest all the involved parties, the halls would become very empty. P.s. how would you prove that these kids were instructed by their parents? You have heard about bullying, maybe the kid was just as intolerant as his father and the lot had enough of this kid.
And if you would charge the playground monitor, what do you thing would happen? You'll end up teaching your kids at home, because the teachers would massively quit their under payed, overstressed $%&%$$ jobs. I had more then my share of semi delinquent parents who had no clue of how to raise a kid, but came yelling to my class room when the little brat was on detention. They put the responcibility of raising their kid at the teachers feet and when the teacher tries to impose some discipline these parents get mad and start yelling they are their kids and teachers shoudl just teach.
If you want to play hardball and start arresting monitors when the kids show deviant behaviour, I say fine. But can you start chemically castrating potential parents of whom you know they make a gigantic mess while "raising" their off spring? I don't want to have the responcibility of raising their kid because they can't and get arrested when it goes wrong!
Just my tuppence worth
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DefiantCdr
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It doesn't matter if they were instructed by their parents or not. If a child beats on another one they are suspended. It should be as simple as that. The fact that they weren't is the problem in my oppinion, not the motives behind it.
Good parents don't put the responsibility of raising their children on the teacher. It is, always has been, and always will be the responsability of the parent. That doesn't mean that schools shouldn't play a part in that (by ensuring that kids aren't able to do things like this while they're in a school environment), it just means that it should never be considered the teacher's job to make sure your kid is raised well.