Scalar weapons - Page 2




 
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April 17th, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kozzy Mozzy
You must understand that EMP bombs are not in any way related to the scalar weapons described by Tom Bearden. EMP bombs simply generate a large electromagnetic field, frying electronics over a large area. They are extremely difficult to make, harder then developing nuclear weapons.

"Scalar weapons" described by Tom Bearden are some sort of device that focuses fake "longitudel EM waves". Most of it is pseudo science, it's fake.
You say that most of it is fake, so somethings are true? Ummmm
You also say itīs pseudoscience, but Baerden gives many examples of the use of this weapons....I know it sounds to conspiracy theory...but you never know.

http://www.cheniere.org/books/analysis/history.htm
April 17th, 2005  
Kozzy Mozzy
 
I don't think you get it. EMP bombs have nothing to do with scalar weapons. They just have "electromagnetic" in their names.

Most of these examples are either made up, natural phenomenon, or through something else. The USS Tresher wasn't sunk by scalar weapons. It was sunk because ice had covered it's blow valves. When the sub's steering failed, they couldn't blow their tanks and float to the surface. They sank. Earthquakes are caused by tectonic plates moving, not scalar weapons.
April 17th, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kozzy Mozzy
I don't think you get it. EMP bombs have nothing to do with scalar weapons. They just have "electromagnetic" in their names.
Well, both of them are based on electromagnetics.
You do not have to explain how earthquakes are produced. But I have to tell you that if you explode a nuke very proof in the land it will make a small quake.
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April 18th, 2005  
Whispering Death
 
 
No, nuclear weapons do not make earthquakes anymore than you walking on the gound makes earthquakes.
April 18th, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whispering Death
No, nuclear weapons do not make earthquakes anymore than you walking on the gound makes earthquakes.
http://www.coastalpost.com/96/4/5.htm

(From a 30 seconds search in the web)
April 18th, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
This is from USGS National Earthquake Center in Golden Colorado, I hope that you wonīt say that is propaganda!

They say that may be there is a relation betewen nukes & earthquakes:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/faq/nuclear.html


USGS said:
April 18th, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
Sorry, but no they don't. From the article who's link you posted:

Quote:
The possibility of large Nevada Test Site nuclear explosions triggering damaging earthquakes in California was publicly raised in 1969. As a test of this possibility, rate of earthquake occurrence in northern California (magnitude 3.5 and larger) and the known times of the six largest thermonuclear tests (1965-1969) were plotted and it was obvious that no peaks in the seismicity occur at the times of the explosions. This is in agreement with theoretical calculations that transient strain from underground thermonuclear explosions is not sufficiently large to trigger fault rupture at distances beyond a few tens of kilometers from the shot point.

The Indian and Pakastani test sites are approximately 1000 km from the recent Afghanistan earthquake epicenter. The question that has been asked is whether or not the occurrence of these nuclear tests influenced the occurrence of the large earthquake in Afghanistan. The most direct cause-effect relationship is that the passage of the seismic waves, generated by the thermonuclear explosion, through the epicentral region in Afghanistan somehow triggered the earthquake. For example, following the occurrence of the magnitude 7.3 Landers earthquake in southern California on June 28, 1992, the rate of seismicity in several seismically active regions in the western US, as far as 1250 km from the epicenter, abruptly increased coincident with the passage of the earthquake generated seismic wavefield through each site. The abrupt increases in seismicity occurred primarily in regions of geothermal activity and recent volcanism. The mechanism by which this occurred remains unknown. The Afghanistan earthquake occurred at 06:22:28 UT on May 30, 1998 and the thermonuclear test most closely associated in time occurred at 06:55 UT or after the occurrence of the earthquake. The other nuclear tests occurred 2-20 days before the earthquake.

The elastic strains induced in the epicentral region by the passage of the seismic wavefield generated by the largest of the nuclear tests, the May 11 Indian test with an estimated yield of 40 kilotons, is about 100 times smaller than the strains induced by the Earth's semi-diurnal (12 hour) tides that are produced by the gravitational fields of the Moon and the Sun. If small nuclear tests could trigger an earthquake at a distance of 1000 km, equivalent-sized earthquakes, which occur globally at a rate of several per day, would also be expected to trigger earthquakes. No such triggering has been observed. Thus there is no evidence of a causal connection between the nuclear testing and the large earthquake in Afghanistan and it is pure coincidence that they occurred near in time and location.

One last point. The largest underground thermonuclear tests conducted by the US were detonated in Amchitka at the western end of the Aleutian Islands and the largest of these was the 5 megaton codename Cannikin test which occurred on November 6, 1971. Cannikin had a body wave magnitude of 6.9 and it did not trigger any earthquakes in the seismically active Aleutian Islands.
April 18th, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
Third line of the second paragraph of your/mine quote:

The most direct cause-effect relationship is that the passage of the seismic waves, generated by the thermonuclear explosion, through the epicentral region in Afghanistan somehow triggered the earthquake

April 18th, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
Surfinīg through the web I founded info about the HIGH FREQUENCY ACTIVE AURORAL RESEARCH PROGRAM (HAARP). And the info is quite interesting.
I will give the link of the oficial program and a couple of links of what many people think thatīs going on there.This is very relationated with the scalar weapons due to the use of electromagnetics waves....

Oficial web page:

http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/

Non-oficial pages:

http://www.earthpulse.com/haarp/


Where is the true info? If there is just a little bit of truth in all this crap I find it quite scary.
April 18th, 2005  
Kozzy Mozzy
 
That statement is a hypothetical statement. It is saying that the most obvious and probably correct way that a nuke could trigger an earthquake is through the seismic waves generated. It's not what happened.

I think you need to calm down.