Saddam in his UnderWear - Page 2




 
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May 21st, 2005  
SwordFish_13
 
 
Hi,

More Pictures of Saddam along with two former members of his regime ............ Mr. al-Majid and Mrs. Huda Salih Mahdi Ammash

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Source:Associated Press


BAGHDAD, Iraq - A British tabloid published more surreptitious photographs of
Saddam Hussein in U.S. custody along with two former members of his regime on Saturday, a day after it ran a front-page picture of the former Iraqi leader clad only in his underwear.

The international Red Cross, which is responsible for monitoring prisoners of war and detainees, said the photographs violated Saddam's right to privacy. The U.S. military condemned the publication and ordered an investigation of how the pictures were leaked to The Sun.

Saturday's pictures included one of Saddam seen through barbed wire wearing a traditional white Arab robe known as a dishdasha, and another of Ali Hassan al-Majid, better known as "Chemical Ali," in a dark robe and holding a towel.

The Sun also ran photos of a man and a woman identified as al-Majid, who faces charges for his role in poison gas attacks against
Iraq's Kurdish minority, and Huda Salih Mahdi Ammash, a researcher dubbed "Mrs. Anthrax" for her alleged role in trying to develop bio-weapons for Saddam.

The photos have not provoked much of an outcry in the Middle East but raised concerns about offending Arab sensibilities and doing further damage to the American image already tarnished by the prisoner abuse scandal at Abu Ghraib prison and a now retracted Newsweek report about the desecration of the Quran at the U.S. prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Saddam's chief lawyer, Ziad al-Khasawneh, said the photos "add to acts that are practiced against the Iraqi people." He said he would sue the newspaper "and everyone who helped in showing these pictures."

Some Iraqis and other Arabs called the photos of Saddam the latest in a series of insults to Muslims. Others, however, said the humiliation is just what the 68-year-old former dictator deserved.

Iraq's Interior Minister Bayan Jabr said he did not know how the pictures were taken but he did not believe the U.S. military was involved.

"I don't believe that these pictures were taken by the U.S. Army or coalition forces," he told reporters in Baghdad, but he didn't elaborate.
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May 22nd, 2005  
behemoth79
 
 
im sick and tired of this . Im all for human rights and all and im all for the Geneva Convention. but seriously, is a picture of sadaam in his underwear really this important of an issue. dam lawyers. any shot they get to sue they take. nothing good can come out of this situation. just let it be.
May 22nd, 2005  
Redleg
 
 
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Originally Posted by behemoth79
Im all for human rights and all and im all for the Geneva Convention. but seriously, is a picture of sadaam in his underwear really this important of an issue.
I would actually say yes, to a certain extent..

The Geneva convetion should be followed to the letter in my opinion.
If we're not doing that it will only backfire on us (like this and other cases).
Most of the recent conflicts involving NATO/UN are about human rights (or the lack of), so that's another very good reason for us to follow the conventions as well...

And to Terrorists and the Geneva Convention:
All prisoners are actually (more or less) protected by the Convention, even if they are defined as terrorists.
I've studied the Conventions both at the Sergeant and Officer school, and that is one of the main topics in the courses.
But it depends on how you read and understand it, since it can be a bit "vague" on that point..
One place it says that Terrorists are not protected, but another place says that all prisoners (doesn't matter who) are protected...
(I can't remember the paragraphs now, but I'll see if I can find them later)
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May 22nd, 2005  
Molly Pitcher
 
They're saying now that it appears the pictures were taken from a security camera. If so it could be that they were leaked by a contractor hired by the US military and so I don't see how the Geneva Convention could be called on. The person who worked for the contractor should be penalized somehow I guess but you couldn't blame the military.
May 23rd, 2005  
SwordFish_13
 
 
Hi,


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If so it could be that they were leaked by a contractor hired by the US military and so I don't see how the Geneva Convention could be called on

It's called *Responsibility* ............. when he is under your Command ........... the people you hire or employ ............. you are responsible for their Action .............. it's under your Authority and you failed simple as that ............. it dosen't matter who failed you .

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May 23rd, 2005  
Molly Pitcher
 
In America at least, employers are not responsible for illegal actions taken by their employees without their knowledge.

In India it appears even their police aren't responsible for their _own_ actions if the chicken incident is any indication.
May 23rd, 2005  
A Can of Man
 
 
Its one of those countries dude.
In Indonesia, a cop can pull over a person because the cop wants lunch money.
May 23rd, 2005  
SwordFish_13
 
 
Hi,

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In India it appears even their police aren't responsible for their _own_ actions if the chicken incident is any indication.

Yes UP Police went overboard in that case ........... what's that has to do with Mr. Saddam in his Undes

I wouldn't Go into Much detail as it's off topic apart form the fact to inform you a F.I.R has been lodged against 22 policemen and inquiry has already been set up in the case.

Second The state UP.... where it happned is one of the most Law less state in India ..


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May 23rd, 2005  
MontyB
 
 
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Originally Posted by 03USMC
Somebody printed a picture of Saddam in his undies. Violation of his rights? Yeah okay

Boo Freakin Hoo. Get over it.
Yes but I have no doubt you would feel differently if that was a US POW.
May 23rd, 2005  
03USMC
 
 
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Originally Posted by MontyB
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Originally Posted by 03USMC
Somebody printed a picture of Saddam in his undies. Violation of his rights? Yeah okay

Boo Freakin Hoo. Get over it.
Yes but I have no doubt you would feel differently if that was a US POW.
There ya go thinking again In case you've missed the way some US and UK POW's were trotted out in front the press during GWI. And in other conflicts. If being paraded around in their skivvies were the worst they got. They were lucky.

But for me the sawing off of heads kinda pales the whole Saddam Baby in his BVD's thing. Same way with the mass graves and gassing the Kurds thing.

So let me clarify

BOO Freakin HOO