Rwanda Massacre : Why did UN and retreat and further discuss - Page 3




 
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December 31st, 2004  
devilwasp
 
BTW might I point out that the UN is not a country.
The UN is made up of every nation on the planet.
THAT INCLUDES AMERICA!
So by insulting it you insult yourselves.

HE HE!
The UN also is made up of forign troops and countries do not wish thier troops to be hurt so they may give troops orders to avoid fire fights.
Just a little thought.
December 31st, 2004  
03USMC
 
 
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Originally Posted by devilwasp
BTW might I point out that the UN is not a country.
The UN is made up of every nation on the planet.
THAT INCLUDES AMERICA!
So by insulting it you insult yourselves.

HE HE!
The UN also is made up of forign troops and countries do not wish thier troops to be hurt so they may give troops orders to avoid fire fights.
Just a little thought.
I am quite aware of what the United Nations is. It is a multi national organization. By being a member of the UN however no Country gives up their rights of self direction nor self goverment in hommage to the UN.

I also have a better than average understanding of how the UN Peace Keeping forces are commanded . ROE's are set by the UN not the nations composing the force.
December 31st, 2004  
devilwasp
 
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Originally Posted by 03USMC

I am quite aware of what the United Nations is. It is a multi national organization. By being a member of the UN however no Country gives up their rights of self direction nor self goverment in hommage to the UN.
No but you do realise you insult yourself?
Your country made it , your country is part of it so you are insulting your own country.
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I also have a better than average understanding of how the UN Peace Keeping forces are commanded . ROE's are set by the UN not the nations composing the force.
Yeah and who sets the ROE's?
You say the UN but who does?
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December 31st, 2004  
03USMC
 
 
One more time youngin. The UN sets the ROE's within the mission statement. The Commander of the UN forces whatever nation he may hail from implements them.

And insulting my self let me look outside . Yeah okay it's still the stars and stripes. Not a UN banner.
December 31st, 2004  
r031Button
 
 
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Originally Posted by devilwasp
Yeah and who sets the ROE's?
You say the UN but who does?
Technically the secruity council; and the UN Beurocracy itself. The end result is that the ROE's water down the effectivness of troops. Not being able to react to anything over then "effective" fire for example.
December 31st, 2004  
devilwasp
 
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Originally Posted by 03USMC
One more time youngin. The UN sets the ROE's within the mission statement. The Commander of the UN forces whatever nation he may hail from implements them.
I know the orginisation does it but who in the organisation?
Actually that would be suicide because many diffrent situtation require diffrent ROE's so it must be someone who is totaly informed about the operation...am i wrong?
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And insulting my self let me look outside . Yeah okay it's still the stars and stripes. Not a UN banner.
A stars and stripes is part of it, unless ofcourse your treaties and promises dont mean anything?
December 31st, 2004  
devilwasp
 
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Originally Posted by r031Button

Technically the secruity council; and the UN Beurocracy itself. The end result is that the ROE's water down the effectivness of troops. Not being able to react to anything over then "effective" fire for example.
So now your saying there should be no ROE's if it waters down the effectiveness?
Wasnt that in WW2 now was it? You guys hated the tactics the japs used.
The security coucnil technically sets inetantional ones BUT its the local comanders that choose the real ones.
December 31st, 2004  
03USMC
 
 
The Bureaucrats that sit on the UNSC dictate rules of engagement. Not the Military Members of the force. And there in lies the rub. People who have not a clue about combat dictating ROE's. They are more concerned about appearing PC, and benevolent.

What treaties?
December 31st, 2004  
devilwasp
 
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Originally Posted by 03USMC
The Bureaucrats that sit on the UNSC dictate rules of engagement. Not the Military Members of the force. And there in lies the rub. People who have not a clue about combat dictating ROE's. They are more concerned about appearing PC, and benevolent.

What treaties?
When you joined the UN , you made a treaty to help uphold peace.
Actually most members of parlament are ex military, hell even the former leader of the liberal dems was ex SBS.
December 31st, 2004  
03USMC
 
 
Are referring to Britians Parliment?

And yes the US does deploy forces in support of the UN. At our pleasure just as every other Nation does. At their Pleasure.