Russian Aircraft Carriers vs. US Aircraft Carriers. - Page 4




View Poll Results :Best Aircraft Carriers
Russian 7 19.44%
American 29 80.56%
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December 8th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
Bear in mind, the Russians anti-ship missile strategies for taking out US carriers don't exactly work for establishing the superiority of the Russian Carrier designs.
December 8th, 2004  
c/Commander
 
 
Very true. Apologies for getting off topic...are there any areas where Russian carriers are superior to US designs?
December 8th, 2004  
Sea_Cadet
 
I'd say american because I've never seen a russian super-aircraft carrier
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December 8th, 2004  
EagleZtrike
 
 
Come to think of it have you ever seen a Russian aircraft carrier? Have any pictures?
December 8th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
There's a few forum members from there -- maybe they can offer some hard data?? 13th_redneck seems to know quite a bit too, so maybe he can get some links for us.
December 8th, 2004  
Darcia
 
I have saw Russian aircraft carriers in port...The only "Russian Aircraft Carrier" was some old pictures of an Indian Aircarrier wich Russia sold to them....
December 8th, 2004  
MichaelO
 
Sorry to go off-topic, but Russia's best sub IS (on paper, and technologically) better than the US equivalent. They just don't have the manpower or funds to keep them in the water.

I present: The Typhoon Class.

They are about 2 times the size of the US's best sub. They carry more ICBM's. They have better stealth systems.

http://www.hazegray.org/features/russia/typh01.jpg

And to give a size of scale.

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/fl...ula-941-30.jpg
December 8th, 2004  
egoz
 
i realize this isn't the "who has the better sub fleet thread" but i was talking about the current sub fleet when i made that statement. in that matter russia doesn't have anything that compares to the Virginia Class or Seawolf Class.
December 8th, 2004  
EagleZtrike
 
 
Yeah i think i agree with russian subs being better but look what happened to that sub the Kursk
December 9th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/kuznetsov/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_...rier_Kuznetsov

Link to some info on the Kusnetsov. It is Russia's premier aircraft carrier.
The 2nd bit, the Wikipedia site is pretty good.

That ski jump is the main problem. It drastically reduces the payload of the aircraft that takes off with it. On top of that, Russian fighter/strike class aircraft in general have always had problems with hauling ordinance in good quantity.

"The ship has the capacity to support 16 Yakovlev Yak-41M (NATO code name Freestyle), twelve Sukhoi Su-27K (NATO codename Flanker) fixed-wing aircraft and a range of helicopters including four Kamov Ka-27-LD (NATO codename Helix), 18 Kamov Ka-27 PLO, and two Ka-27-S."
As you can see the aircraft carrying capacity of this carrier is puny compared to the American counterpart. According to this, it will be carrying about ... lets say 30 combat aircraft at most. The American one can carry more than 3 times that amount.

Kusnetsov can go 29 knots. Nimitz class can surpass 30 knots. Close, but it shows you that the Kusnetsov doesn't even have a speed advantage over the US carriers and in fact, is marginally slower.

By the way, the YAK-41 was abandoned and isn't going to be in production.

As with almost everything Russian nowadays concerning the military, it looks far better on paper where you don't see the rust and the broken parts that need to be replaced... that haven't been done so in 2 years.