russia vs china - Page 3




 
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March 22nd, 2012  
HindStrike
 
 
I agree.
March 23rd, 2012  
Korean Seaboy
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rocky71
1. Which side will India and ASEAN be will be important in this scenario.

2. Koreas may unite meanwhile and join the Chinese to settle old scores with the Japs.

3. PRC knows very well its adversary is the West led by USA. She has declared abstinence from any shooting war till another about 10 years - by which time her industrial base, economy and the military preparedness would be ready to claim the top super power slot.

4. Taiwan is the number one forex investor in PRC. It is much to Taiwan's involvement that PRC's industry and economy is growing so fast.

5. The Chinese have been very careful and deliberate in adapting to new realities. That is why a Soviet Union did not occur here. Otherwise PRC has flouted all fundamentals of Communism since Deng Tsao Ping.
The Koreas won't unite, simply because of a war. The only way for the Hanbando to be united is for internal reforms in North Korea, a war will only leave both countries devastated. Despite common misperceptions, North Korea's main threat isn't its nukes which are probably too weak in power and are much likely to be intercepted easily by the Aegis in the Korean military. North korean delivery systems are also very problematic, so nukes aren't a factor. The reason why a war will be so devastating, is because of North Korean artillery in the DMZ. They number in the thousands and have the Seoul Metropolitan Area within its range- a place where 40% of the entire country's population resides which means about 20 million people. Much of South Korea's economy is also based there, as well as Seoul being the capital. It's not hard to see why a war never happened, when the capital, the economy, and the population was vulnerable to being knocked out within 10 minutes of a war
March 27th, 2012  
HindStrike
 
 
I heard they were procuring the israeli iron dome anti-artillery system for deployment around seoul. I would also think that with reconaissance conducted by satellites that they would be able to plot where the artillery was.
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September 6th, 2012  
jayraptor
 
Russians have the talent, potential and capability to develop new advanced technology but brought down by financial issues. They really need to focus on building its economy and come up with new electrical/electronics goods to compete globally according to trend and fashion like US, Japan, Korea and China. Vladivostok in the East and somewhere to the West near Black Sea seems ideal to develop their secondary and tertiary industries. Improve the income and living condition of the people, they will eventually have the idea to come up with something good.

China is rich but it is not treating its people well. Technology wise, it is only good at duplicating, not developing something new by its own. Therefore Sino-Russia war is impossible as China depends on Russia and Ukraine for technology acquirement. Only in Jane's Fighters Anthology, they'll engage in war.

The only way for North and South Koreas unite is through war, winner takes all. Only if China promised that it will not threaten to use nuke on Japan and South Korea if the North regime is losing. Back then, China threaten to use nuke if South Koreans refused to call for truce when it was gaining grounds.
January 8th, 2013  
udaka
 
China is only good at duplicate?? China is developing some new space battleships who can carry the nuclear warheads patrol the solar system.
Don't you know?
like this:




Quote:
Originally Posted by jayraptor
Russians have the talent, potential and capability to develop new advanced technology but brought down by financial issues. They really need to focus on building its economy and come up with new electrical/electronics goods to compete globally according to trend and fashion like US, Japan, Korea and China. Vladivostok in the East and somewhere to the West near Black Sea seems ideal to develop their secondary and tertiary industries. Improve the income and living condition of the people, they will eventually have the idea to come up with something good.

China is rich but it is not treating its people well. Technology wise, it is only good at duplicating, not developing something new by its own. Therefore Sino-Russia war is impossible as China depends on Russia and Ukraine for technology acquirement. Only in Jane's Fighters Anthology, they'll engage in war.

The only way for North and South Koreas unite is through war, winner takes all. Only if China promised that it will not threaten to use nuke on Japan and South Korea if the North regime is losing. Back then, China threaten to use nuke if South Koreans refused to call for truce when it was gaining grounds.
May 23rd, 2013  
Hutchie
 
China is becoming the most powerful capitalist country, Russia is emerging, but the US is an emerging socialist/communist country. Why would China go to war with Russia, just open some Walmarts and bury em with junk. Someday 100 years in the future a Russian or Chinese Ronald Reagan will come along and save us from tyranny.
July 29th, 2013  
udaka
 
The Russian vs China, are you kiding me ? If Russian no huge quantity of hydrogen bombs, the conventional force of Russia can't confront the conventional force of China completely.

you know, China a mobilize 200 millions troops if necessery.
August 3rd, 2013  
RusCan2013
 
Nobody would win in a Russia-China war.

1. PLA could do a blitzkrieg attack and probably would be able, through sheer numbers push quickly, maybe even all the way to the Urals. However, they would then have to prepare for a lengthy and bloody guerilla war. Even today, there are many ultranationalist Slavic fanatic armed militias in the taiga

Many of these guys are ex-specnaz and such, highly trained, with experience in "hot spots".

And it's not just nationalists either. This is Siberia we are talking about. especially in rural areas, many people have guns, many guns

Even babushkas there have rifles lol

and many people own much more serious firepower


Not just Slavs either, there are various native tribes, many of whom are also well armed


and are excellent snipers, growing up with a gun in hand and having provided sharpshooters for Russian and Soviet militaries for ages

(Battle of Kursk, WWII)

Many of them being Buddhist, they hate China and Chinese, for Tibet and such, so would be highly motivated to fight back also. So, that whole "gun under every blade of grass" the Americans like to talk about, your PLA would very quickly run into that in Siberia. And those people would also know the terrain and be adapted to the environment much better than your soldiers.

Plus, some of the better Russian military units in Siberia, most notably, the Pacific Fleet Marines, a tough, experienced fighting force who have made themselves a name these days, battling Somali pirates


would also retreat into the forest and organize guerilla operations from there.

Meanwhile, you Chinese may mobilize lots of soldiers, but your soldiers, most of them, have never seen battle, and most of them are crap fighters, can't even handle a bunch of Uighurs with knives, let alone a real war. Hell, most of your guys are ****ing five feet tall lol

B. There are probably 100 Russian ICBMs staring at every population center in China, most of which are along the East and South Coasts. Russia also possesses chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction. You may think your population would give you an advantage, but you would be surprised how quickly your numbers can be reduced, in a real, all-out war like that. Keep in mind, Russia, like America, has submarines that can deliver and launch ICBMs from pretty much everywhere

a capability China doesn't yet have, far as I know.

Sure, China may retaliate with own nukes, destroy Moscow perhaps. But, by then, Shanghai, Beijing, Guangzhou, Hong Kong, etc, will also be burned out, lifeless, radioactive deserts.

That is why I say, in such a war, there would be no winner.
September 9th, 2013  
ASTRALdragon
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by udaka
China is only good at duplicate?? China is developing some new space battleships who can carry the nuclear warheads patrol the solar system.
Don't you know?
like this:


Looks like China is great at watching Battlestar Galactica too.

Developing and drawing are two different concepts. Unless there is a space dock somewhere up in Earth's orbit, I wouldn't use the word "developing."
April 11th, 2014  
AirForceGenius
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HindStrike
You're forgetting about all the nations that would come and aid Taiwan in the event of a chinese invasion. US, France, Britain, Japan, and South Korea to name a few. Pretty soon it would turn into WW3 with nato and western aligned nations backing taiwan and most likely North Korea, Myanmar, Bangladesh, Iran, Syria, and Pakistan backing China. Then maybe Russia would side with nato and the west. It would be a long, bloody war but most likely the west would win.
Stupid little man. Stupid stupid stupid.
1. China is not stupid enough to invade Taiwan
2. America is not stupid enough to retaliate
3. As a brit and im sure my french friends would agree WE ARE TIRED OF BEING DRAGGED INTO AMERICAN WARS. not to mention the fact that were war exhausted.
4. Russia would never side with the west do you know who is in control?? ****ing PUTIN.
5. MAD (mutally assured destrution) is why there has not been 2 great powers fighting each other since WW2.
6. No one would win!
 


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