Rumsfeld Signature Rubber Stamped On Condolences - Page 2




 
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Boots
 
December 21st, 2004  
Snauhi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redneck
If you find it is too difficult to behave in a mature manner on these forums, Snauhi and liukainorth, find another place to spend your time until you can.
Redneck what did i do?
December 21st, 2004  
Snauhi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by liukainorth
Who cares, at least I'm not dead in Iraq yet.
are you really in Iraq? I dont what to be rude, but can you say to us what unit you are with , when did you arrive and what is your comanders name.
December 21st, 2004  
03USMC
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chewie_nz
i gotta say that the whole "how would he have time" is the first thing i thought of when i read that. but, comparing it to WWII doesn't work. they got telegrams.

but with this war, it's supposed to be smaller. there are different expectations. and it's such a divisve (sp) war too.

The telegrams were the initial notifier. The Families also received letters. I could show you 2 from the Commandant of the Marine Corps, and 1 from the Army Chief of staff as well as the telegrams.

My point was that this is not a new method. It's another attempt to spin public opinion against the current administration.
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Boots
December 21st, 2004  
Charge 7
 
 
I dunno. I think he could find the time. 1200 dead thereabouts is not an impossible number to manage vs. the 400,000 in WWII so that's a non-arguement. As to it being a media spin, well they're prolly getting the most out of it sure, but if the families feel illused than that's reason enough to find the time. We can never repay them enough. Jotting down a signature once or twice a day if that doesn't seem like too much to ask.
December 21st, 2004  
03USMC
 
 
It maybe a manageable number and feasible for him to do. But my thought is it was probably an in place system. And was DOD procedure. Now that it's being questioned maybe it will change.
December 21st, 2004  
Charge 7
 
 
Oh yeah, you're probably right about it being procedure. Well the old saw goes the squeeky wheel gets the grease. I guess the wheel just squeeked enough.
December 26th, 2004  
Chemo66
 
Frankly, I wouldn't care if I got a letter from the SECDEF if my son died in Iraq. I would cherish the letters from the company and battalion commanders. I have written two of those letters myself. The Army has a very solid system when a SM dies. From assigning a responsible officer to inventory the SM's personnal effects (in each location, the SM's footlocker/duffle and theSM's barraks room...different situation if the SM lives off post), to a very micro-managed series of suspenses for the letters to make their way to the BDE (or at whatever level the collection is being monitored).

So if SECDEF even decided to send a letter from his level, more power to him. I don't remember that happening in Desert Storm, IFOR, SFOR, KFOR, etc.

SUCCESS!
December 26th, 2004  
Charge 7
 
 
Oh yes, Chemo, I wholeheartedly agree with you about the relevance of getting a letter from your lost child's commander vs. SECDEF. That wasn't the topic though. I only think that whatever the families want, they should get if it's within anyway possible to give it to them.
January 3rd, 2005  
Duty Honor Country
 
 
I am with charge 7 on this one. A real signature is the least he can do and it does not take much time at all.

The most important letter if I died in combat would be the "last letter"I wrote to my wife and family. It is pretty hard to write those letters, but they would do much more than any letter from the President on down to my commander.