Is Rugby thougher or easier than American football? - Page 12




View Poll Results :thougher, Rugby American football?
Rugby 51 80.95%
American football 12 19.05%
Voters: 63. You may not vote on this poll

 
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June 14th, 2005  
Damien435
 
 
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Originally Posted by Wallabies
So very ignorant of the game.
That goes both ways.

For physical VIOLENCE Rugby wins hands down but for Physical ability I have to lean towards the NFL. Hitting a wide receiver on the sideline in stride forty yards down the field with a defender only a couple feet behind if even that is the hardest thing in any sport. Supposedly baseball is hard because you have to hit a round ball with a round bat square, but I can hit a breaking ball, I can not however hit a wide out streaking down the sideline in stride even without a defender on him. (ok, if I really tried I might be able to 1/10 times but it has been a while since I threw a football with any accuracy.)

Sorry if I sound ignorant, but from what I have seen in Rugby (And I used to watch Rugby and Soccer on FSN quite often.) there is only one tactic for getting the ball down the field and that is running as far as you can then lateral the ball while trying to take down as many defenders as you can with the occasional Squim(sp).
June 15th, 2005  
bulldogg
 
 

Topic: Definitions


The use of the word tough has seemed to lend itself to a little interpretation on this thread. If you take tough to mean difficult to play then you can further break it down into mentally or physically... but for my part I would like to use the definition to mean tough as in full on macho in your face smashmouth ball breaking physically violent. Rugby wins. No pads and full contact. Damn good clean fun even though I still have difficulty remembering that I am not supposed to block (argh!!!) and that you have to throw the ball backwards to go forwards .

We used to play rugby first and then after an hour when everyone was knackered we'd play American football as it was friendly to those who needed a break. You know, rugby is non-stop go go go and in football you have 10 seconds of action and then 40 seconds of rest.

And wallaby has a point. Prior to playing the game i thought from observing, it was all 'echelon right' and 'echelon left' but damn it is a wee bit more complicated than all that. Its a game of laterals and it is damn difficult even without the physical violence. There is a reason NFL teams don't do laterals on kickoff returns anymore- the guys just can't get it right without screwing up because it is too easy to screw it up so they concentrate on the more easily controlled aspects of the game.

There is a LOT of strategy and a LOT of violence. Me likey!!!
June 15th, 2005  
Wallabies
 
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Hitting a wide receiver on the sideline in stride forty yards down the field
You may do this, but how many times does it take untill it happens?

The contest for the ball never stops in Rugby, not one facet of play is guaranteed for the team with the ball. We can't run out when we are about to get hit, and if we slip over we better get up quickly and get smashed or stay down and lose the ball. Getting over the line with 3 blokes on you is common place and the skill to step, fend, and weave your way through the defensive line is a lot harder than out sprinting someone and catching a ball.
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June 15th, 2005  
AussieNick
 
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For physical VIOLENCE Rugby wins hands down
Too bloody right.




June 15th, 2005  
Damien435
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wallabies
Quote:
Hitting a wide receiver on the sideline in stride forty yards down the field
You may do this, but how many times does it take untill it happens?

The contest for the ball never stops in Rugby, not one facet of play is guaranteed for the team with the ball. We can't run out when we are about to get hit, and if we slip over we better get up quickly and get smashed or stay down and lose the ball. Getting over the line with 3 blokes on you is common place and the skill to step, fend, and weave your way through the defensive line is a lot harder than out sprinting someone and catching a ball.
Do you want me to be just as biased as you and start downplaying how hard Rugby players try?
June 15th, 2005  
AussieNick
 
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Do you want me to be just as biased as you and start downplaying how hard Rugby players try?
Uh I think he was making a serious point. Some rugby players are known to make over 100 tackles in an 80 min game. And those tackles aren't soft.
June 16th, 2005  
Wallabies
 
Downplay them, I would love to see how you could.
June 16th, 2005  
bulldogg
 
 
Simple enough to settle this hey. Two matches. One rugby team, one american football team. One game by NFL rules. One game by Rugby rules. Winner takes all, till then its all supposition and highly subjective. There is a bit of nationalism involved in this and hence an inherent bias.
June 16th, 2005  
Wallabies
 
Australia doesn't even have enough professional players to make up 2 NFL teams. I would love to see a prop going up against a linesman, I think the prop would win. In a NFL game I mean.
August 7th, 2005  
skipper
 
A rugby team playing NFL would still win because by the third quarter, the NFL team would be in hospital.

Ok, NFL. i can respect anyone who can throw a ball 80 yards. i can respect the tactics and the plays and counter plays and all that. but thats it.

i CAN NOT respect a game that stops every 8 seconds, in which the players are allowed to take steroids and wear protective padding., imagine rugby players on steroids...shiiish

ive played both, in Victoria, and most people that played were playing in the union off season for sumthing to do. the ones that didnt play union were usually carried off the pitch on stretchers. it sure was fun, but there is no satisfaction smashing somone when they cant feel it. and all the bloody rules made the game so slow.

i know speaking as an Aussie and a descendant of the Commonwealth im being biased, but union really is the greatest, most tactically minded, physically and psychologically demanding game in the world. i think even the irish will admit to that. btw i have nothing against hurling, as long as you get sloshed beforehand so u cant feel anything.

and keep in mind we're talking about rugby union. rugby league is just inferior, unless u want to warm up.