The rising of an Empire and the future invasion of Europe! - Page 39




 
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May 13th, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
[quote]="Borat Sagdiyev"]

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Not due to religious differences couse im not a very religious person, but i consider my self a Catholic. But for example in Morocco I heard many things such us we will behead you when we conqueor you again and stuff like that, however i met wonderful people also. To have negative experience you have to be in their ambient, they are very careful to say it here...
In Spain confrontations are usual, due to rapes, murders and so on...., I think that spanish muslims are less intregreted than swedish muslims (now i Live in sweeden), there have benn some popular riots against muslims.

May 13th, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
Not due to religious differences couse im not a very religious person, but i consider my self a Catholic. But for example in Morocco I heard many things such us we will behead you when we conqueor you again and stuff like that, however i met wonderful people also. To have negative experience you have to be in their ambient, they are very careful to say it here...
In Spain confrontations are usual, due to rapes, murders and so on...., I think that spanish muslims are less intregreted than swedish muslims (now i Live in sweeden), there have benn some popular riots against muslims.
May 13th, 2005  
gladius
 
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Originally Posted by Borat Sagdiyev
Call me a liberal or whatnot, but I don't believe more than 0.01% of European muslims would risk their lives for such a looney cause.
The reason you believe they won't, is because you are liberal.

You are trying to percieve what the Muslims are thinking from a secular point of view, thats not going to work, and you are dead wrong.

You are saying they wont follow what they earnestly believe in. Sure they won't.

You totally underestimate their belief in their own religion. What is looney to you, is truth to them. When this guy comes most of them will drop everything to follow him.


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These points appear somewhat valid but everything is sketchy at best...then again, so is most hypothetical stuff?
If they are somewhat valid, then it can happen. With a billion Muslims wanting it to happen there is a good chance it will.

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Biggest proof? Unfortunately I' m not the Supreme Commander of EU armed forces (although my avatar depicts the GLA Leader from the game Command & Comquer Generals, the GLA being one of the three world powers in the game). If I was, I would certainly attempt to implement some EMP countermeasures and I'd try to push politicians to also have civilian emergency EMP procedures. But I still don't believe an attack such as the one you describe is probable at all.
Even if you were commander, here you are, and you are mocking this and you say you are going to impliment it. Yeah sure.

For you to impliment this, you will first have to take this threat seriously, and you don't. You are contradicting yourself by saying you will implement this.


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Muslim countries don't have as many of the latest generation western battletanks (e.g. M1, Leclerc, Leo2) as Europe does. Germany alone has over 2000 Leo2 (they are also employed by Sweden and the Netherlands), France has several hundred Leclerc and I think Britain has over 1000 Challenger 2 and Italy has a few hundred C1.

Saudi Arabia and Kuwait have a few hundred Abrams, Oman or Qatar or both have some Leclercs. The other western battletanks they have are obsolete, like Leo1 or M60 tanks.
Britain only has about 200 chalengers, from last I heard. Even if those numbers are true, that doesn't mean this Empire won't be buying more in the future. What they have now is no indication of what they can buy later. They will buy as much Western tanks as they can get their hands on, which may end up to equal that of the West.


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Only if you believe in prophesies that have been written down over 1000 years ago by someone who was having an acid trip (or whatever hallucinogenic they had at the time), which I don't.
I don't believe them either. Are you surprised?

But the Muslims believe them.

What I beleive is their belief to see that this comes true.

So it doesn't matter what you or I believe. Its what they believe that will make this happen.


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1. Mohammed lived 1400 years ago. Whatever he said is pretty outdated.

2. Read my point above.

3. Not all muslim men regard women as totally inferior and stuff. For that they wouldn't risk a war against a power like Europe which isn't even threatening them that seriously.

4. I thought the "Christian Arch enemy" was mainly the USA.
To most all Muslims it is not outdated.

No wonder you have absolutely no understanding of this, you are considering what they believe form your point of view.

Its like 4 foot guy talking to a 6 foot guy on the phone about a 5 foot guy. The 4 foot guy tells the 6 foot guy to look for a guy who is tall. The 6 foot guy looks and looks but doesn't find him because the 5 foot guy is shorter than the 6 foot guy. But to the 4 foot guy the 5 foot guy is tall. You are basicly doing the same thing, their point of view is not the same as yours.

It is traditional for Muslims in a jihad to take the women they capture as wives or slaves. Not only that, they still hold the crusades against the West.

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Okay let's make a deal. If this kind of attack doesn't happen within the next 20 years, I get to laugh at you on this message board and if it does....well let's say I won't have access to a working computer for you to laff at me. So I win either way :P
If it doesn't happen you can laugh at me here, but I won't mind, because I don't want this to happen, but I'm pretty sure it will.

But if I'm right---You won't win either way.

You'll either be dead, fighting in foxhole with mud up to your eyeballs, or you'll be forced to bow down and kiss the dirt towards Mecca five times a day.
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May 13th, 2005  
Mohmar Deathstrike
 
 
Mod Edit: Forum staff will decide when to lock a thread, not you.

Wow, not only is a comment added to my post, which is cool with me, but the entire post gets deleted. Thanks a lot, forum staff.

Mod edit: You're lucky that's all that's happened.
May 14th, 2005  
MontyB
 
 
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The enemy forces will be massed at the border (they havent crossed yet).

Right before attack across the border begins, the EMP is launched.

After the EMP is detonated, the enemy will start their vehicles, and at a pre-determined time a coordinated assualt is launched across the border.
Hmm so the "Europeans" are not going to notice 1000 divisions of "Muslims" massing on their borders, I am assuming because they are all camoflaged as camels to avoid detection?.

You dont think this is getting a little far fetched do you, your prophecy will suffer major logistical problems long before it ever could become fact.
May 14th, 2005  
Doc.S
 

Topic: Re-The rising of an Empire and the future invasion of Europe


Borat SSagdiyevwrote:

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One Muslim holy man is not going to unify the muslim world and you know it.
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Call me a liberal or whatnot, but I don't believe more than 0.01% of European muslims would risk their lives for such a looney cause.
I don't agree with you Borat that is all... You make this sound so easy in my ears. Well I can show you how easy it really is to unify large parts of the muslim world without even a Mhadi. I don't say you have to convince me to forget all this about mr Mhadi. And on the other hand I am not trying to convince you to belive that this Mhadi stuff is only a prophecy and not a self fulfil prophecy. I belive however that gladius are right about the time-line even if it begin to look bad already. Lets see how easy it is to make Islam unify even without their domesday prophet. 8)

Friday, May 13, 2005

LINK CNN.com:
http://www-cgi.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/as...uran.reaction/

LINK Washingtonpost.com:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051100311.html

LINK The Moscow Times.com:
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/storie...05/13/251.html

LINK AljazeeraNet:
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...B1CB343BCC.htm

sstaurofilakeswrote:
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We can not forget that the Islam has always been the traditional enemy of Europe. In Spain we have this recorded in our mental background. They do not attack us because they are not powerful enough, in their eyes we are infiels. I never liked this leftist politically correct language. It seems that european people have to be always kind, let everybody get in our land, change our costumes,accept their costumes without complaining scared of being called racist.
sstaturofliakes Yes.... You are right here.... But try to find a better muzzle then all this - You racist? Are you filled with hate towards muslims or foreigners? You are a far right nazi if you so spit on the sidewalk over here. You are effective halted to express any non political correct opinion towards something that may have something to do with a possible danger over here. It doesn`t matter if it is true or not. As long as the leftist politically correct language is not damaged goods.

But you learn to live with all these threats and laws against your rights to express yourself. Freedom of speech for some ppl. But in a liberal and leftist socialist country. You can forget to express yourself on the streets if it may point out flaws that may hurt for an example their integration policy or their view of Cuba. Mhadi is a bomb that will not get out in our radio stations or up on our TV-screens that is a fact. The rising of an Empire and the future invasion of Europe is nothing that will be discussed over here until our radio stations are calling all citizens towards the local mosque.

The government discussed immigration policies and the threat in the future against our culture and future after the murder of that Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh in Brussel. But nothing of what they talked about there was in our local newspapers... NOTHING! But on tele a short comment from our Integration Minister was sent and that was not on the best broadcast time I tell you.

So ppl may wonder why this subject is of high interest for ppl living in sweden. Well here you get your answer. We have not chosen to look at all this with suspicious eyes. Some of us just got this traditional enemy of Europe in our backbones, unfortunately years and years of goverment brainwashing have made ppl blind towards sensitive issues that may make our country look a bit less democratic then it shows the outside world. Few of us still have the ability to think for ourselves, and that makes leftists feel good because they know there are very few of us.

Because they don't have to defend themself all the time around to get their point of view shown in the open as ppl like you and me sstaturofliakes has to do everytime we may question the political correct issues from a different point of view. The rising of an Empire and the future invasion of Europe is a great post with an subject that would make fingers itch for allot of ppl to be honest that want to see this subject shut down! Thanks to a great forum staff this thread is still running. Thanks to glaudius there is still a great subject to discuss on this forum.

I did run a test this winter on my work of how many that had heard anything about Mr Mhadi and the prophecy? Out of 13 ppl there was 1 that had heard about Mr Mhadi. My co-worker a former Iraqi now a swedish citizen and a Shia Muslim. Well try that on the local streets back home or at work see how many that have heard about the Mhadi prophecy. My co-worker did tell me this. If he comes we will unite and you will soon do as I do. Turn your head towards mecca five times a-day and subject yourself to Allah on the correct times or you will go to hell. "That statement almost made me a true believer" 8)

woops! and some ppl may look at Doc.S and call him a nutcase!

Cheers:
Doc.S
May 14th, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
I think this politically correct leftist language comes from some kind of complex of the european people due to the colonialist time, the word "racist" is used too often and to define ways of thinking that do not have anything to do with racism....The concept of actual european democracy sucks, at least from my point of view. I just can not find any reasonable reason to let millions of potential enemies into our land. If the answer is to give them a better life then I would suggest to help them develop their countries and remove their corrupt/dictatorial/teocratic political sistems.

There is something I do not understand, why our goverments do not see this emergent danger? Is not that difficult...may be they are blind, may be they are stupid or may be they have some kind of sinister interest...

Right now is taking place the cultural invasion...when all this millions of people with all their mothers, fathers, daughters, sisters, cousins, nephews and brothers in law are stablished here....then will come the militar invasion.
May 15th, 2005  
A Can of Man
 
 
The only times I got any racist crap while I was in the UK was from Pakistanis.
May 15th, 2005  
Doc.S
 

Topic: Re-The rising of an Empire and the future invasion of Europe


staurofilakes:
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There is something I do not understand, why our goverments do not see this emergent danger? Is not that difficult...may be they are blind, may be they are stupid or may be they have some kind of sinister interest...

I think that they know that they have crossed a line where there is no return. What should have been a humanitarian effort has runned of tracks and there is no way to stop this without bloodshed. Europe will fall as Uzbekistan is doing right now. As with Indonesia and other countrys their tactics have worked just fine in the past and in the present, why change it? Move in and get as many of your own believers in to the country and convert as many you can - your voice will be the one that counts in the end. Military efforts and Police efforts are no options when the "majority" of the ppl with one faith storm public and governmental or state buildings, letting prisoners and others out on the streets, building human shields with their familys and friends while their rampage continues, destroying the last of what once was your culture or homeland.

If military or police attempts to intervene the lack of training and equipment in those development countrys as we see on TV as with Uzbekistan panics - shoot first and ask questions later-. Almost as with a chime Human Watch and Rights are there to condemn those governments that has no other options then to shoot first and ask questions later, what we are watching in Uzbekistan are the last desperate attempts of a fallen ra. IMHO those organizations are nothing more then well greased leftist propaganda machinerys that knows that if a government falls and they are under extreme Islamist control, there will be no capitalists running around there and making terms for them.

This is a dirty war that will finally find its way to Europe with this "Invasion". Who knows it may already have started - A kick off that will send a message strong enough for this Mhadi to step out from his cave and prepare the final takeover. Everybody should know that, that will be the end of democratic and free elections, and the end of the society governed by law and order. The rising of an Empire and the future invasion of Europe can be this we are watching today. Still the effects in Europe we may not see until as gladius writes - 15-20 years. Ill be 48 years old then.

It is an inevitable development
When I hear fear in Ms. Condoleezza Rice`s voice, the security advisor
to the US President I open my eyes and sharpen my ears.


Doc.S
May 15th, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
I do not know you guys, but I see a lot of similarities btw the fall of the Roman Empire and the future fall of Europe. The difference is that instead of barbarians know we have muslims. I think that the preocess will be similar:

-First they arrive. Then come the relatives..., they they start reproducing their selfs lots faster than we do.

-After a while they will have many positions in the power. Just like happened in the Roman Empire. May be even in our armies , just like in the Roman Empire....

-Then will come the war, done from the outside & inside.

Some preocess as in the ancient Roman Empire, quite scary!


Doc.S, you are right, It was scary to ear the voice of Mrs. Rice concerning the issue of the koran profanation..., they know that a really big muslim riot could have huge effects, and this kind of acts(profanation against koran), the only thing they do is make easier the unition of muslims against the evil west. Really scary....