It's kinda had to explain. But the Mahdi is the final Caliphate which is not really considered a prophet but the direct will of Allah through a person---will meaning actions and decrees not through writings like Mohamed.

To give an example if he says something like "attack France" or "kill all the Jews" those are simply his actions and decrees hes not giving out spiritual guidlines or laws such as those found it the Quran.

Anyways most of the Muslims don't interpret the Quran directly they follows it throught the interpritation of thie Imans who actually say anything--- that's if they wanted to.

Yea I know what you mean, a direct link as In a family perspective right? Through Ali and Abu Bakr ect...?

I'm not sure what you mean, if you're asking what bloodline the Mahdi will come from they say he will come directly from the lines of Mohamed, from the lines of Fatima.

They even say what he will look like, he will have a gap in his teeth and a crook on his nose. There's a lot of detail about this, although they vary from sect to sect. The basics I had outlined however.

In an interesting note; Bin Ladin claimed to be the Mahdi, although it didn't fly.

Also in the news you might have heard Al Sadr's miltia is called the Mahdi Army, sure enough there are tons of Muslims who can't wait to wage the final Jihad.

Ah, so thats why they call themselves that. Thanks for sharing your knowledge gladius, this will give me somthing to think about tonight.

Your welcome, I'm glad to share this stuff.
I only hope enough people will wake up to this, and see that this could actually happen and when it does we won't be caught sleeping.

Id also like to bring up another Issue. As we all know, many of the Jewish elite were highly skeptical of Jesus' claims, and even could be considered to have brought about his death. With the Saudi Royalty firmly established, and many rival terrorist factions, could this situation of an Islamic Mahdi lead to a general implosion of Islam as we know it. What I mean, are we looking at another round of Schisms?

I'm not entirely sure, but you're right there is a possibility it could.

However, prophecies also state that the Mahdi will be opposed by certain factions or countries within the Muslim world, and that he will subdue and defeat them as a sign that he is the true Mahdi.

Whoever steps up to the plate and claims to be the Mahdi will no doubt, like you outlined, have to face opposition. If he is stopped or defeated by them then the Muslims simply go back to their homes and go "oh wel... maybe next time". If he by chance defeats the opposition, all the Muslims countries will have to subjugate themselves to him by default or popular uprising, once this happens he will be at the head of an empire, with total absolute power within that sphere.

My point about this whole thing is that it is a big barrel of gunpower with fuse already primed, just waiting... for the right person to step up and light it.

My point about this whole thing is that it is a big barrel of gunpower with fuse already primed, just waiting... for the right person to step up and light it.

Ten years to 50 years you say?

I give it 3 years top....

Cheers:
Doc.S

I've heard about this theory, or prediction if you like, before.

However, I just don't see any invasion unfolding along military lines. If there is an invasion, and one can argue that it's been ongoing for the past 40-50 years, it's much more likely to be of a more subtle kind.

Here's an interesting post that explains what I mean:

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1056046/posts

Any invasion is likely to be cultural and demographic rather than militaristic.

Originally Posted by Doc.S

Ten years to 50 years you say?

I give it 3 years top....

Yes, around 10 to 50 years I'm guestimating.

It could be 3 years, but I seriously hope not.

Originally Posted by Doppleganger

I've heard about this theory, or prediction if you like, before.

However, I just don't see any invasion unfolding along military lines. If there is an invasion, and one can argue that it's been ongoing for the past 40-50 years, it's much more likely to be of a more subtle kind.

Here's an interesting post that explains what I mean:

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1056046/posts

Any invasion is likely to be cultural and demographic rather than militaristic.

I definately know what's going on with this other kind of "invasion" in Europe.
I think they've really screwed themselves.

If this does happen that they take over Europe through those means it will take longer but it will be actually worse, since instead of trying to conquer Europe they will try to conquer us ( meaning the USA ).

If this does happen its going to be at least 2 or 3 generations or more for complete conversion, that's at least 50 years or more by my guess.

The thing is, if the Mahdi shows up before that happens, a military invasion of Europe will have to occur, since it part of their prophecies. Whether it's true or not, they are trapped into following it in order to legitmize what's been said. That's why this is so dangerous.