The rising of an Empire and the future invasion of Europe! - Page 17




 
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September 27th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
A bit like their wishy-washy stance on NATO during the Cold War.

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Originally Posted by SHERMAN
Yes, and they will fight to death. Other than that, the French will fight along side europe.....They are not stupid.
September 27th, 2004  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
When things get serious, and I mean guys coming in through the borders of europe, then French throw it up hard.

But I somewhat agree with 13th, in that, France might diddle-daddle around for too long. They aren't exactly fans of preemptive war.
September 27th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
Yup I think this time around, the French will fight because they've been so badly humiliated in the past.
But then again you don't know until it's tested for real.
But the biggest trouble comes in their obsession with disagreeing with everything either the US or the UK decides is the best way to do things.

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Originally Posted by Chocobo_Blitzer
When things get serious, and I mean guys coming in through the borders of europe, then French throw it up hard.

But I somewhat agree with 13th, in that, France might diddle-daddle around for too long. They aren't exactly fans of preemptive war.
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September 28th, 2004  
gladius
 
I don't think anybody will be really stupid, not the French nor the Islamics---once the war starts, before that however...

But what I see as far as European policy goes, is the the Europeans will do alot of stupid stuff in order for this to actually become possible. Like for example sell them technology, as they have done in the past. And also be too dependant on Middle East oil which will enable the Islamics to collapse their economy with an immediate and massive boycott.

A collapse of the European economy may actually lead to an opening for a conventional invasion, coordinated with terrorist attacks.
September 28th, 2004  
03USMC
 
 
Not to mention the already present Islamic populations to draw on for a guerilla force.
September 28th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
It's a key reason why France cannot join the war on terror. The whole country will go up in flames.
September 28th, 2004  
Animal Mother
 
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It's a key reason why France cannot join the war on terror. The whole country will go up in flames.
So the French forces that took part, and still do, in the operation in Afganistan are not a part of the war on terror?
September 29th, 2004  
gladius
 
France has dug itself into a ditch politicaly.

They really can't be seen to do anything anti-Arab, even if it favors them, without it costing the politicians over there dearly. They are trying to stem the tide of Islam over in their country like preventing wearing headscraves in schools, but its really too little too late.

No large scale uprising will occurs until the Mahdi shows up, however its the large scale Muslim population in France that may cause it to delay entering a war with the Islamics should an all out invasion of Europe occur. The same may go for Germany (although less likely) since they also have a very large Muslim population. The initial defense of Europe may be up to the Eastern Europeans, France and maybe Germay may not do anything until the enemy is well into European soil.
September 29th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
France could engage in some very small roles but as for a full scale partner in a war that would enrage the huge muslim population in France, whether the action is right or wrong? They're going to be in huge trouble.
October 8th, 2004  
KAMIKAZI
 
I dont think it will be like you describe but I do think war is inevitable between countries in the future, who, I dont know but it will happen! The thing I doubt about a greater muslim empire is that these countries are fighting amongst themselves all the time, I cannot see them uniting, and also Israel, Israel has immensly advanced Nuclear weaponry, the most advanced I dare say even more than those of the US and UK, if Israel felt threatened I tell you they would nuke their opposition flat in self defence, they would also protect Europe. The delivery systems of weaponry in the eastern countries is very poor and unadvanced, European technology is much superior and even Germany who has swore an oath to their public not to produce nuclear arms due to World War worries (not that they would do another war because they are much to nice independent people now ) German technology is still a massive massive improvment on Eatern infact its as good as the US and UK except for there is no Nuclear side to it!