reliable QBZ-95
5.56X45mm
Milforum Mac Daddy
Looks like a piece of crap.... I've seen the legal imported one that are sold in Canada. They're nothing special.... Also the photo of the muzzle blast looks fake. I see no spent shell casings being ejected.
Also, in another photo. You have a Chi-Com soldier diving into the dirt muzzle first. Sorry, but I think that even the PRC Army would teach it's troops not to allow dirt and debris clog the muzzle. That would cause one major KB! But hey, they're my enemy anyways. So I will continue to allow them to take themselves out of action.
Also, in another photo. You have a Chi-Com soldier diving into the dirt muzzle first. Sorry, but I think that even the PRC Army would teach it's troops not to allow dirt and debris clog the muzzle. That would cause one major KB! But hey, they're my enemy anyways. So I will continue to allow them to take themselves out of action.
Regisvo
Active member
It explains why M-16 is paper tiger compare with AK-47.
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QBZ-95 is using some AK-47's technologies.
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5.56X45mm
Milforum Mac Daddy
Hey Regisvo, you fill up the barrel of an AK-47 rifle with dirt and it's going to cause problems too. The problems that I'm talking about are barrels and receivers blowing up. That has nothing to do with an AK versus M16 thing. That has something to do with proper weapon handling and safety.
As I said, I've handled them. Nothing special... just another Chi-Com bull-pup rifle. Of course that was the QBZ-97, which is cahmbered in the 5.56x45mm and uses a different magazine well and magazines. It uses the NATO STANAG AR-15 series of magazines.
I have a little bit of background experience in this field. I'm a former Gun Smith and Firearms Dealer. I'm currently a police officer and I go to just about every single firearms event in the USA. The SHOT Show is the major event. Everyone there hawks their gear and guns. Your little rifle was there. It was not the best thing that I've seen. Infact, I seen better polished turds made in the Gun Bazaars Of Pakistan (home made guns).
Once again... another showing of the photo that everyone loves....
As I said, I've handled them. Nothing special... just another Chi-Com bull-pup rifle. Of course that was the QBZ-97, which is cahmbered in the 5.56x45mm and uses a different magazine well and magazines. It uses the NATO STANAG AR-15 series of magazines.
I have a little bit of background experience in this field. I'm a former Gun Smith and Firearms Dealer. I'm currently a police officer and I go to just about every single firearms event in the USA. The SHOT Show is the major event. Everyone there hawks their gear and guns. Your little rifle was there. It was not the best thing that I've seen. Infact, I seen better polished turds made in the Gun Bazaars Of Pakistan (home made guns).
Once again... another showing of the photo that everyone loves....
Regisvo
Active member
http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/wwwboard/board4/messages/2203.html
http://www.kalashnikov.guns.ru/wwwboard/board4/messages/1984.html
The reliability of the QBZ-95 approximates to the AK-47. It's better than the M16. The accurate of the QBZ-95 is better than the AK-47 and lower than the M16. Therefore the PLA equips the QBZ-95 5.8 mm rifle and the QBU-88 5.8 mm sniper rifle simultaneously.
QBU-88 5.8 mm Sniper Rifle
Now are you aware of the QBZ-95?
5.56X45mm
Milforum Mac Daddy
Look, I'm not going to get into an argument with you over something that you have no knowledge on. For all I know you're some 15 year Chi-Com sitting around spewing communist propaganda. It sounds like you have never served nor fired a weapon of any type anytime let alone have any knowledge in this field of debate.
You live in a nation that does not let you own firearms. You quote Wikipedia, a source of information that's known not to be 100% accurate.
I on the other hand am a prior service member of the US Army, former Gun Smith (repaired and made firearms for a living), former Firearm Dealer, and current Municipal Law Enforcement Officer. Firearms are my life. So as the internet says. Getting into an argument is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.
You live in a nation that does not let you own firearms. You quote Wikipedia, a source of information that's known not to be 100% accurate.
I on the other hand am a prior service member of the US Army, former Gun Smith (repaired and made firearms for a living), former Firearm Dealer, and current Municipal Law Enforcement Officer. Firearms are my life. So as the internet says. Getting into an argument is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.
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bulldogg
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The AK47 nor the Chinese copycat of the SA-80 is better than the M-16. It would do you good Reggie to educate yourself and to that end here is a link. Happy reading... be sure to read ALL the links ALL the way through.
http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/origins-myth-m-16-vs-t27984.html
http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/origins-myth-m-16-vs-t27984.html
major liability
Active member
I don't know why everyone who loves AR-15s has to hate on AKs. They're both great weapons for different situations and skill levels.
Regisvo
Active member
5.56X45mm
Milforum Mac Daddy
Look Regisvo, I've spent time in the sand box with the M16 platform. It works. It never failed me when I needed it. You give me a gun and I can make it fail any damn test. Every firearm ever made needs to be cleaned and lubricated to work properly. Some firearms have a loser tolerance then other. There are trade offs.
The 1911 series of pistols are very accurate but they need to be cleaned and lubricated more often then a GLOCK series pistol.
The whole issue of tolerance means that your gun might work in some shitty environments but it won't be accurate.
Proper firearms training means that if you keep your weapon clean and lubricated that it will work. I have real hard earned experience in this subject. Don't get into an argument that you cannot win.
The Chi-Com QBZ-95 entered PLA service in 1997. It fires the 5.8x42mm Centerfire Cartridge. It has an overall length of 760mm, a total unloaded weight of 3.4kg, a barrel length of 520mm, a rate of fire of 650 rounds per minute, and a standard service load of 30rd per magazine.
The action is a gas operated, magazine fed, automatic weapon with a bullpup layout. It has a short stroke gas piston and a rotating bolt. The charging handle is located at the top of the receiver, under the carrying handle. The housing is made from polymer, with an integral carrying handle, which holds the rear sight base, and has mounting points for optical or night vision scopes. The ejection port is made only at the right side of the weapon, so it cannot be fired from the left shoulder. Standard sights are of the open type, graduated from 100 to 500 metres. The front part of the barrel in the standard version is left unobstructed, so the QBZ-95 rifle can be used to launch rifle grenades. It also can be fitted with an underbarrel grenade launcher or with a knife bayonet. Fire controls of QBZ-95 rifle consist of a trigger and a safety/selector switch, located (quite inconveniently) at the rear left of the receiver, behind the magazine housing. QBZ-95 can fire single shots or bursts. the magazine is rocked into place like the AK series or FN FAL Rifle.
Here is the main issue. THE RIFLE HAS NOT SEEN ANY MAJOR CONFLICT.
The M16 weapon system that you are bashing has had some rough times in it's past (has does most firearms when they're new). Most issues can be traced back at operator error, not design. But it has been in major service for the last 45 years. It is used by major military powers. It has fought battles in every world climate. Most nations that used former Soviet style weapons are switching over to the M16 weapon system.
Don't open up a can of firefight if you cannot back up your claims.
The US Military will continue to look for a replacement rifle because that is the nature of the beast. Sure, the M16 has been working like a champ but if someone can make a better rifle then guess what. We're going to go for the damn better weapon. It's why we went from the Spring Trapdoor rifle to the 1896 Krag and then from the 1896 Krag to the Springfield 1903. Then from the Springfield 1903 to the M1 Garand. Then from the M1 Garand to the M14. Then from the M14 to the M16. What will come after the M16, I don't know. Maybe a Phased Plasma Rifle in the 40Watt range? (Please tell me that some folks understand the joke.)
The Chinese QBZ-95 is nothing new. It's the same gas system as an AR-18. which guess what. It's an American Design. Designed by the same man that made the M16 rifle (AR-15). Eugene Stoner. It was designed to be a cheaper rifle to be produced for nations that cannot afford to produce the AR-15. The AR-18 is made of stamped metal instead of machine cut aluminum receivers. The AR-18 gas system and basic design have been copied into the British L-85/SA-80 Rifle and the now famous German Heckler and Koch G-36 series of rifles.
I say it once and I'll say it again. If you listen to the People's Republic of China long enough. They'll damn tell you that they invented water and oxygen.
EDIT: The whole issue of the QBZ-88 Sniper Rifle is battlefield tactics. It's called DM (Designated Marksman). The US Armed Forces does the same as does every other damn military power.
The 1911 series of pistols are very accurate but they need to be cleaned and lubricated more often then a GLOCK series pistol.
The whole issue of tolerance means that your gun might work in some shitty environments but it won't be accurate.
Proper firearms training means that if you keep your weapon clean and lubricated that it will work. I have real hard earned experience in this subject. Don't get into an argument that you cannot win.
The Chi-Com QBZ-95 entered PLA service in 1997. It fires the 5.8x42mm Centerfire Cartridge. It has an overall length of 760mm, a total unloaded weight of 3.4kg, a barrel length of 520mm, a rate of fire of 650 rounds per minute, and a standard service load of 30rd per magazine.
The action is a gas operated, magazine fed, automatic weapon with a bullpup layout. It has a short stroke gas piston and a rotating bolt. The charging handle is located at the top of the receiver, under the carrying handle. The housing is made from polymer, with an integral carrying handle, which holds the rear sight base, and has mounting points for optical or night vision scopes. The ejection port is made only at the right side of the weapon, so it cannot be fired from the left shoulder. Standard sights are of the open type, graduated from 100 to 500 metres. The front part of the barrel in the standard version is left unobstructed, so the QBZ-95 rifle can be used to launch rifle grenades. It also can be fitted with an underbarrel grenade launcher or with a knife bayonet. Fire controls of QBZ-95 rifle consist of a trigger and a safety/selector switch, located (quite inconveniently) at the rear left of the receiver, behind the magazine housing. QBZ-95 can fire single shots or bursts. the magazine is rocked into place like the AK series or FN FAL Rifle.
Here is the main issue. THE RIFLE HAS NOT SEEN ANY MAJOR CONFLICT.
The M16 weapon system that you are bashing has had some rough times in it's past (has does most firearms when they're new). Most issues can be traced back at operator error, not design. But it has been in major service for the last 45 years. It is used by major military powers. It has fought battles in every world climate. Most nations that used former Soviet style weapons are switching over to the M16 weapon system.
Don't open up a can of firefight if you cannot back up your claims.
The US Military will continue to look for a replacement rifle because that is the nature of the beast. Sure, the M16 has been working like a champ but if someone can make a better rifle then guess what. We're going to go for the damn better weapon. It's why we went from the Spring Trapdoor rifle to the 1896 Krag and then from the 1896 Krag to the Springfield 1903. Then from the Springfield 1903 to the M1 Garand. Then from the M1 Garand to the M14. Then from the M14 to the M16. What will come after the M16, I don't know. Maybe a Phased Plasma Rifle in the 40Watt range? (Please tell me that some folks understand the joke.)
The Chinese QBZ-95 is nothing new. It's the same gas system as an AR-18. which guess what. It's an American Design. Designed by the same man that made the M16 rifle (AR-15). Eugene Stoner. It was designed to be a cheaper rifle to be produced for nations that cannot afford to produce the AR-15. The AR-18 is made of stamped metal instead of machine cut aluminum receivers. The AR-18 gas system and basic design have been copied into the British L-85/SA-80 Rifle and the now famous German Heckler and Koch G-36 series of rifles.
I say it once and I'll say it again. If you listen to the People's Republic of China long enough. They'll damn tell you that they invented water and oxygen.
EDIT: The whole issue of the QBZ-88 Sniper Rifle is battlefield tactics. It's called DM (Designated Marksman). The US Armed Forces does the same as does every other damn military power.
Regisvo
Active member
I think that nobody can tell whole truth to tough man.
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Did your information derive from DoggieTime.com?
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bulldogg
Milforum's Bouncer
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Report_China_selling_arms_to_rights_0608.html
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/HF14Ad01.html
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20060612/ai_n16476289
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/5086416.stm
Educate yourself. You can derive information from some source but information cannot derive.
5.56X45mm
Milforum Mac Daddy
I don't know.... Bulldog is never wrong on the subject of Communism China. He's lived there for quite awhile. As for the news articles, yeah it does state that the Chi-Coms are selling arms to some of the world's most unsavory characters.
Okay, now lets put two and two together....
QBZ-95 is a firearm. Firearms fall under the classification of arms. The Chi-Coms are selling arms to the world's most unsavory characters.
Are the Chi-Coms cleaning out their stock of older small arms? Yup, but I beat you since they have slave labor (Communist Country) and a large number of factories that they're producing QBZ-95 rifles for sell to the open market.
Hey, I'll make you a deal. You allow religious freedom, right for people to be secure on their persons, freedom of speech, right to keep and bear arms, right to be the on in charge of the government, stop planning to undermine the United States of America, stop making back door deals with Iran, free Tibet, free Hong Kong, and keep your grimy paws of Taiwan. Then I'll stop poking fun at your crappy rifle.....
As I said before, I have something called experience in this subject. I EAT, BREATH, AND DREAM FIREARMS. I HAVE WORKED WITH FIREARMS SINCE I WAS 18 YEARS OLD.
I am a former infantry soldier, gun smith, firearms dealer, and current police officer.
You want to talk to me about pickup trucks. Okay, I'll listen because automobiles aren't my best subject. But firearms are my way of life.
Oh and educate yourself. What you get forced into your mind isn't the truth.... Communism isn't the way and the People's Republic of China isn't the best place on Earth. Head on over the the USA and enjoy the wonders of a free society and capitalism. Sure, capitalism isn't perfect. But it's the best thing in the world right now.
Okay, now lets put two and two together....
QBZ-95 is a firearm. Firearms fall under the classification of arms. The Chi-Coms are selling arms to the world's most unsavory characters.
Are the Chi-Coms cleaning out their stock of older small arms? Yup, but I beat you since they have slave labor (Communist Country) and a large number of factories that they're producing QBZ-95 rifles for sell to the open market.
Hey, I'll make you a deal. You allow religious freedom, right for people to be secure on their persons, freedom of speech, right to keep and bear arms, right to be the on in charge of the government, stop planning to undermine the United States of America, stop making back door deals with Iran, free Tibet, free Hong Kong, and keep your grimy paws of Taiwan. Then I'll stop poking fun at your crappy rifle.....
As I said before, I have something called experience in this subject. I EAT, BREATH, AND DREAM FIREARMS. I HAVE WORKED WITH FIREARMS SINCE I WAS 18 YEARS OLD.
I am a former infantry soldier, gun smith, firearms dealer, and current police officer.
You want to talk to me about pickup trucks. Okay, I'll listen because automobiles aren't my best subject. But firearms are my way of life.
Oh and educate yourself. What you get forced into your mind isn't the truth.... Communism isn't the way and the People's Republic of China isn't the best place on Earth. Head on over the the USA and enjoy the wonders of a free society and capitalism. Sure, capitalism isn't perfect. But it's the best thing in the world right now.
Regisvo
Active member
China exported rifels and grenades to Nepalese security forces for opposing Nepal Maoism violent guerilla. Amnesty International's report is weird. Did Bulldoggie or the reporter tell ppl those things?
Now China has many defects we Chinese must struggle with. But as for the wonders, I should post some China's infrastructure pics for you, then you'll see the condition of China a little more. If you wish, I'm going to upload some pics of the city of China.
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