Quick question on flashbangs - Page 2




 
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April 27th, 2006  
moving0target
 
 
While I doubt it would cause any lasting disability, I wouldn't hold one in my hand when it popped. Sounded like a reasonable question to me.

Besides, we know the FBI excuse was just that, an excuse. If you're going to burn the place and its inhabitants to the ground, why bother going in?
April 27th, 2006  
DTop
 
 
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Originally Posted by moving0target
While I doubt it would cause any lasting disability, I wouldn't hold one in my hand when it popped. Sounded like a reasonable question to me.

Besides, we know the FBI excuse was just that, an excuse. If you're going to burn the place and its inhabitants to the ground, why bother going in?
Stay on topic. You can start another thread about paranoid anti-government conspiracy theories or whatever if you like but this one's about f/b grenades only. Thanks.
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April 27th, 2006  
sunb!
 
 
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Originally Posted by major liability
Yes, that's good, but what would happen if a flashbang went off while it was right on you.
Severe trauma to ones hearing and eyes, potential heart attack if the condition is set, possible loss of limbs by the blast (fingers, hands, toes), bleedings and burns.
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April 27th, 2006  
deerslayer
 
 
that answers my question. Thanks a lot. Oh, and by the way, according to the video surveillance of Waco... the Branch Davidians lit the fires themselves.
May 1st, 2006  
major liability
 
 
I have another question about flashbangs;

If you threw one into a carpeted room or a room with other common flammable objects, would it burn the house down?
May 1st, 2006  
Chief Bones
 
 

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Originally Posted by major liability
I have another question about flashbangs;

If you threw one into a carpeted room or a room with other common flammable objects, would it burn the house down?
It could ... there have been instances where a fire was started by the flash-bang.
May 1st, 2006  
Damien435
 
 
*wiggles his four fingers*

Flashbangs are NOT toys!
May 1st, 2006  
moving0target
 
 
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The XM84 Stun Grenade is a non-fragmentation, non-lethal "Flash And Bang" stun grenade that is intended to provide a reliable, effective non-lethal means of neutralizing & disorienting enemy personnel.

The M84 non-lethal stun grenade is a non-lethal, low hazard, non-shrapnel producing explosive device intended to confuse, disorient or momentarily distract potential threat personnel. The device produces a temporary incapacitation to threat personnel or innocent by standers. This device will be used by military personnel in hostage rescue situations and in the capture of criminals, terrorists or other adversaries. It provides commanders a non-lethal capability to increase the flexibility in the application of force during military operations.

Detonating the M84 Stun Grenade in the presence of natural gas, gasoline, or other highly flammable fumes or materials may cause a serious secondary explosion or fire, resulting in death, or severe injury to friendly forces or unintended victims, as well as serious property damage. The operator must wear proper hearing protection when employing the M84. Injury to personnel could result if the grenade functions prior to being deployed.

The M84 contains a minimal amount of explosives and, when initiated, produces illumination through oxidation (burning) of the components of the charge. Some non-toxic smoke is produced in minimal amounts. In the event the grenade functions prematurely or bounces back when tossed, the user could feel the effects of the grenade. Approved eye protection should be worn when employing the M84 to preclude possible damage to the eyes. The grenade when initiated produces an intense ?bang?. The noise levels will be above 170 decibels within 5 feet of initiation. The user must wear approved single hearing protection when employing the grenade in the event of a premature functioning or bounce back when tossed. Activation of the M84 should not ignite paper or cloth. However, other hazards such as volatile fumes in the space where the grenade will detonate should be considered prior to tossing it into a closed structure.

The US Army Military Police Corps is involved in missions that require the use of a stun hand grenade (diversionary device) to confuse, disorient, or momentarily distract a potential threat. The device will be used to apply the minimum force necessary by tactical and non-tactical forces while performing missions of hostage rescue and capture of criminals, terrorists and other adversaries. The congressionally mandated Soldier Enhancement Program (SEP), of which one purpose is to enhance the survivability items used by the US Army soldier, is the initiative to provide this increased level of protection.
Source:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...tions/xm84.htm