Questions You Should Ask the Recruiter.

Chyllaxen

Chyllaxen

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Well, I think we should have a List of Questions that everyone should ask a recruiter before they sign anything.

I would Be honored for Anyone to add SERIOUS questions to the List ill Start it off with Two that I feel should be asked.

1. Where Will I be Stationed?

2.How Long Will I serve?


~Chyllaxen
 
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1. The recruiter cannot tell you where you will be stationed unless you get a "guaranteed first duty station" in your contract, and that is if they even offer that still. It is up to a little man in a small room in a large Pentagon who will assign you to the station of his choice according to the needs of the service and how the bran muffin is treating his colon after a commute through the beltway.

2. You will serve the length of your contract or until some violent action should render you incapable of completing your obligation.

Rather than what you should ask your recruiter you should be educating yourself and go into see the recruiter previously armed with what you want and what is the minimum you will accept from them. And as Tom said GET EVERYTHING IN WRITING. IF it isn't physically typed down in your contract it doesn't exist no matter what the car salesman in camouflage tells you.

Now, what branch are you looking at joining?

What country?

How old are you?

When you answer these we'll go further down the road to see what you qualify for or not and help square you away if you are teachable.

Waiting on you son...
 
Alright, your next task is to administer a PT test.

You need to post the following information so we can further assist you:

2 minutes Max push ups
2 minutes Max sit ups
Untimed Max pull ups
3 mile run time

Push ups are done all the way up, all the way down, your back must BREAK the horizontal plane from elbow to elbow. Best way to ensure this is to have your chest hit the floor on each repetition. You may rest but your hands and feet must remain on the ground and no other part of your body may contact the ground.

Situps are knees bent, feet flat on the floor, hands behind your head, all the way up all the way down. You may rest only in the UP position.

Pullups, the bar must be grasped with both palms facing either forward or to the rear.

The correct starting position begins when your arms are fully extended beneath the bar, feet are free from touching the ground or any bar mounting assist, and the body is motionless.

Your legs may be positioned in a straight or bent position, but may not be raised above the waist.

One repetition consists of raising the body with the arms until the chin is above the bar, and then lowering the body until the arms are fully extended; repeat the exercise. At no time during the execution of this event can you rest your chin on the bar.

The intent is to execute a vertical “dead hang” pull-up. A certain amount of inherent body movement will occur as the pull-up is executed. However, the intent is to avoid a pendulum-like motion that enhances the ability to execute the pull-up. Whipping, kicking, kipping of the body or legs, or any leg movement used to assist in the vertical progression of the pull-up is not authorized. If observed, the repetition will not count for score.

Run. Pretty friggin simple stud, start running and stop at three miles, timed.

Rest between each event for NO MORE THAN TEN MINUTES.

Today is better than tomorrow.
 
Well I did sumthing very similar in AjROTC, Cadet Challange.

So ill do this First thing tomarrow, and give you the results.

~chyllaxen
 
I am I have my Trusty Water Battle Right here... :) you know the Bachler bottle with the paper ripped off...(IDK why the paper is ripped off)


~Chyllaxen
 
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OK here are my scores....


For the PushUps In 2 min I completed 81
Sit-ups in 2 min: 66
Pull-ups: 4
3 Mile run(Not exactaly 3miles but close): 24 Min

I hope This is enough Info, I got my friend To help me grade.


~Chyllaxen
 
Heh.

You're right about where I was when I went into Boot Camp. Your pull ups could use a bit of work, but then nearly everyone's could.

I dont have any questions to add to your list as of yet, but I do have some ideas for pre-recruiter visit research.

Do some real hard thinking and soul searching on what it is you really want from your service time.

Not everyone can be, nor should everyone want to be, infantry. But, there's few things more miserable than someone who, deep in their hearts, wanted to be a grunt but then opted for something else or went in open contract thinking they'd get infantry automatically.

Once you get your head wrapped around what sort of job you want to learn, read read read read up on all the MOS's that apply to that job field, and read read read more on all the other MOS's you can find info on. You never know when you'll run into that one job description/schooling package that just trips your ticket and tickles your fancy. There's a crap load to pick from so read as much as you can on as many as you can.

Also, for the youngsters, do some deep thought on the concept that the US Military exists to serve the defense needs of the US of A and not to fulfill the ego needs of select young soldiers. If you wanted sniper, ranger, SEAL, super duper uber elite whatever, and don't get it, welcome to the real world. Don't take it personally and dont let it ruin you're time in service by breeding a bull**it attitude over it.

When considering an MOS, put some thought into after your service. Some set you up much better for a head start in the civilian world than others but all military jobs will gain you some.

Ok, one question series would be, what's available now in (give your desired MOS spread here), what's available within x amount of time (x = time you feel you are willing to wait) and what requirements must I meet prior to signing for the MOS picked (assuming you can set your mind on one).

Get it in writing. That's probably the best advice going.
 
Definitely work on your pullups. just keep doing them all the time. Whenever you see a pullup bar, just knock out a few. doing pullups is the best way to get better. also, try to work on that three mile time. the top score for the 3 mile on the Marine Corps PFT is 18 minutes. you want to be as close to that as you can.
 
Alright Chyl, read that post from Grimmy very carefully. There is gold in it. Your PT scores are not bad, not great but not bad. The next task you have is to do what Grimmy said. Think about what you want from your time in the service. Give it some thought and post any questions about different jobs that you might have up here and we'll help you sort it out. When you have decided what you want you need to have five choices. They are as follows...

1. Dream job
2-4 A job you would like/want
5. The bare minimum job you would accept.

The reasons for this are that when you go to MEPS it doesn't matter what the recruiter might tell you about availability. The day you go you will talk to a career counselor and he will look on the CPU and see in real time what the needs of the service are that day and you need to know what you want and what is the minimum you will accept BEFORE or they will push/cajole/convince/influence/screw you into something you will be stuck with for the duration.

So take your time. Ask questions as you need to and when you have your five post them up in order of preference. There is no time limit for this task.
 
bulldogg said:
Run. Pretty friggin simple stud, start running and stop at three miles, timed.

Rest between each event for NO MORE THAN TEN MINUTES.

Today is better than tomorrow.
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Just a thought here but would running up a few flights of stairs or in sand help him any ?
 
Of course, there is a good running plan for him that he'll receive shortly but any running will help and in the sand won't hurt at all. The problem with stairs is that unless you've got a long run of them like in a stadium its hard to get a long cycle of sprinting, landings and all that.

How important his PT scores will be is going to be determined in great part by the answers to his current task, combat arms making them all the more important as certain schools require a higher PT score for entry let alone graduation... ie airborne, ranger, SF...
 
Well MY DREAM JOB is

1. Special Forces Candidate(i know pretty far fetched, but just yea)
2. Drill Instructor
3. Apache Pilot
4. Combat Engineer
5. Cant decide
 
Chyllaxen said:
Well MY DREAM JOB is

1. Special Forces Candidate(i know pretty far fetched, but just yea)
2. Drill Instructor
3. Apache Pilot
4. Combat Engineer
5. Cant decide
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Attention to detail.

Drill Instructor is NOT an MOS.

Now take your time and do this right. Quit basing this off movies and posters look on the internet and see what is available. If you don't know where to look let us know and we'll point you in the right direction.

This isn't baseball, you don't get three strikes.
 
Im sorry, I didnt know where to look but now I do

1. 18 X-ray Special Forces Enlistment Option (18 Bravo, 18 Charlie) / 74 Delta Chemical Operations Specialist

2. 19 Delta Cavalry Scout

3. 21 Bravo Combat Engineer

4. 33 Whiskey Military Intelligence Systems Maintainer & Integrator

5. 11 X-ray Infantry Enlistment Option (11 Bravo, 11 Charlie)



Is this what you wanted... I wasent sure I tried though


~Chyllaxen
 
Good recovery.

Next step is to take the ASVAB. Not the practice test but the real deal. Those line scores will determine which jobs you qualify for. If you have not taken it that is your next task. If you have taken it post up your line scores not just the GT... all of 'em.
 
Grimmy said:
When considering an MOS, put some thought into after your service. Some set you up much better for a head start in the civilian world than others but all military jobs will gain you some.
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I concur with Grimmy. I would say #3 and #4 is what you should go with.
 
Will The recruiter let you take it, if you dont sign up? Because ive already decited i dont wanna sign anything until I have all the info i really need



~Chyllaxen
 
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