Question on end of WW2 in Far East




 
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December 15th, 2015  
JOC
 
 

Topic: Question on end of WW2 in Far East


A possible thought provoking question. Did the Soviet Far Eastern attack - campaign on Japan have any real significance on Japans unconditional surrender in September 1945?
December 15th, 2015  
George
 
The shock of the A-Bombs seems to have been the determining factor. The Soviets crushed the Japanese in a massive defeat, but then they didn't seem phased by our crushing defeat of them either, so I'd say the Soviet invasion of Manchuria probably had little effect on the decision.
December 15th, 2015  
JOC
 
 
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Originally Posted by George
The shock of the A-Bombs seems to have been the determining factor. The Soviets crushed the Japanese in a massive defeat, but then they didn't seem phased by our crushing defeat of them either, so I'd say the Soviet invasion of Manchuria probably had little effect on the decision.

I agree with your assessment George. One key factor was the Japanese didn't know American was limited to only 2 A-Bombs at that time. They believed that a great deal more would be dropped if they didn't surrender. This scared them into surrendering.

All war in the pacific had already sapped off the cream of the Japanese army. The Kwantung that the USSR defeated was still a large army of 1 million men but it's best troops, pilots and planes had been siphoned off to fight the allies in the Pacific.

It was quite a one sided fight the USSR had 1.5 million men, some 5.500 AFV's and 3900 planes to thrown against the Japanese.
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December 15th, 2015  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
Something that might have contributed to the Japanese surrender in regards to the Manchuria offensive is; the Japanese relocated industries to this part of their area to protect them from the US Army Air Corps. Even though, the Japs must have had problems to get the equipment out from Manchuria due to the lack of means of transportation.
December 15th, 2015  
JOC
 
 
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Originally Posted by I3BrigPvSk
Something that might have contributed to the Japanese surrender in regards to the Manchuria offensive is; the Japanese relocated industries to this part of their area to protect them from the US Army Air Corps. Even though, the Japs must have had problems to get the equipment out from Manchuria due to the lack of means of transportation.
I'm not sure how heavily the Americans targets shipping from North China - Manchuria however I do know for the most part most of the shipments to Japan were ending up at the bottom of the sea due in large part to the successful American submarine campaign against Japan.
December 15th, 2015  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
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Originally Posted by JOC
I'm not sure how heavily the Americans targets shipping from North China - Manchuria however I do know for the most part most of the shipments to Japan were ending up at the bottom of the sea due in large part to the successful American submarine campaign against Japan.
Yes, the US submarines were very successful to cut the Japanese islands off so any merchant ships from Korea would have been a prime target. Even later when the US naval forces were pretty close to the home islands, the Japs couldn't get anything of significance out from Korean ports prior the USSR offensive.
December 15th, 2015  
George
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JOC
I'm not sure how heavily the Americans targets shipping from North China - Manchuria however I do know for the most part most of the shipments to Japan were ending up at the bottom of the sea due in large part to the successful American submarine campaign against Japan.
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Originally Posted by I3BrigPvSk
Yes, the US submarines were very successful to cut the Japanese islands off so any merchant ships from Korea would have been a prime target. Even later when the US naval forces were pretty close to the home islands, the Japs couldn't get anything of significance out from Korean ports prior the USSR offensive.
Between the "Hell's Bells" device that allowed subs to enter the Inland Sea & the B-29s air dropping mines.......
 


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