We are right on it Bulldog, don't worry.
The following is addressed to mmarsh -
Tell that to The marines, or in this case to the baby whose head is crushed. No-one needs a law to recognise killing. As i clearly stated - life is snuffed out.
We are a society of laws and we respect those laws whether we agree or not. In the US there are laws in that making killing in certain cases legal. The Death penalty is legal, as is assisted suicided (in certain states), as is abortion. Sometimes killing is a necessary evil, and no it doesn't bother me. There is far worse in the world to get hung up on the trivial matter like abortion.
As for the rest, yes, I am on your case now - all who are concerned with immigration are racists to a degree! What a sad take!
You didn't read what I said did you? I never said all people, just that racism is bigger issue than people give it credit for. Trying to twist around my words will not prove you right.
Listen to me - My country is full of this stuff you peddle, and it eats away at the moral fibre of the nation continually, we become weaker and weaker.
People are sick and tired of being lectured to about their lack of 'morality'. Are you really so pure yourself? I highly doubt it. I have lots of British collegues and I dont them moan about the lack of moral fiber in Britian. People who complain about a societies lack of morality also happen to have the political/social views that society has rejected. Its just sour grapes to me. What I can say is because the UK is now one of the most powerful nation in the World and is now stronger on the world stage than it has been in the past 50 years, that we can dispense the gloomy and unfounded predictions about of the collapse of morality within the British Empire.
America should beware of those who nibble away at its long held principles.
And it would be nice not to lightly sweep aside America's contribution to WW11. They saved Europe then, so that you can now sit comfortably in Paris.
I believe in remembering that past, not dwelling on it. I, like most people wasn't born in 1944. Do you really expect me to dwell on ancient History that I didn't experience myself? I prefer to spend my energy on the present and future. The only person who is sweeping aside his countries contribution in WWII is yourself. I have not heard you mention one thing about your own countries contribution which I find odd because your country suffered more during WWII than mine did.
America is freedom's only hope. If they lose their moral conviction, who will pick up the baton. Not those who cannot be trusted to defend the spark of life.
What makes you think we are so pure? Have you not read about Abu Garib? About Torture? so on and so forth. We are a great nation but we do not wish to be put on a Global Pedestal (I don't think the world wants us on that pedestal either). The US can certainly provide assistance, but ultimately people need to find their own freedom. Its not our job to play world cop, we have our own problems...
Do I detect a sudden dropping of the Holocaust issue?
Yes, but not because of you. As Bulldogg stated we are way off-topic. You're new here, The Mods here don't like when the subject goes too far off as it has now. I am trying to move this thread back to the subject. Start a new thread and I gaurentee you won't find me timid. But I am done here.
We are involved in a Global War against Fundamental Islamic Ideology.
You were late in recognising it. Sep 11 woke the giant. The worst move the enemy ever made. I suppose that you yourself are in denial regarding that as well. The enemy within? Rubbish, I suppose! Your attitude is translated by the enemy as the weak under-belly that will bring about your destruction.
I would be mindful of telling a New Yorker about being in denial or of anything else having to do with 9-11. I witnessed the death of many people I knew that day. Can you say the same? My father also lost a few aqaintences as well, not to mention the firehouse on my street that lost 19 guys from the station house when the building collapsed on top of them. I still remember their faces and the offices of our clients at the Cantor Fitzgerald office, but do not recall their names. There were almost no survivors of the entire 700 person staff. On this subject I probably know most than most people here, because it was my hometown that got attacked, not yours. Remember that, the next time you try and play the 9-11 trump card.
And No, the fact that al-Qaeda overstepped was not lost on us. For example did you know that one of bin Laden son (when he heard about 9-11) abandoned his father in the Afgan Mountains when he heard about it, he thought his dad had brought disaster on them. Nor were we New Yorkers surprised about the attacks, although we didn't imagine the scale. There was the 1993 WTC attacks and several other minor attacks done by various Palestinian groups. Unfortunatly that opportunity is know lost thanks to tragic missteps of foreign policy. According to the CIA, Al-qaeda is now stronger than ever.
With all the misery in the Middle East, something was bound to follow us back here. As long as we meddle in Arab affairs, we will have to deal with Islamic terrorism.
The question for you is, is it too late for Europe? Or, more to the point, is it too late for Europe without the support of the US.
You really have a poor view on Europe don't you? The French have been fighting Islamic Extremists since the 1950's. And they are much more experienced at it that the Americans are. Their anti-terrorism commandos (RAID) are considered the best in the world so much so that your own SAS trains on a regular basis. The fact is the French have not had a successful attack on French soil in about 15 years. They have done this WITHOUT American help.
When the time comes that you are confronted by the dragon - will you tell it your country has a law against it?
Absolutely, because we don't fight monsters by becoming monsters ourselves. We are civilized, they aren't. Thats what makes us better then them.
This is my last post. We are too far Off-topic so I am disengaging before the mods step in.
