youngCAPcadet
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I do not agree with the people who think we should pull out of Iraq, if we pull out, it will be worse than Vietnam. I just want to hear what everyone else thinks.
5.56X45mm said:We will not pull out of Iraq. Hell, we still haven't pulled out of Japan and Germany. History is the best teacher. After the surrender of Germany. The SS went underground. They sniped women and childern, and hunted down US Soldiers. 1946 and 1947 weren't cake walks for US personal in the ETO. It's not a simple thing. What the USA is currently doing is something that no other nation will do. We are completely rebuild the Nation of Iraq. Re-training their military and national police forces to protect it's people instead of hurt them. And it's a simple fact. By having the war over there. Keeps the war off our shores.
Ted said:If allmost everybody agrees not to invade another country, you shouldn't go there when you see fit!
Ted said:Why think that your political or economic system as better then his?
Italian Guy said:Ted said:If allmost everybody agrees not to invade another country, you shouldn't go there when you see fit!
This should have been valid as well when YOUR country along with mine favored the war on Belgrade and agreed to the bombings of innocents, against the will of the UN. WE killed 10,000 innocents there, and YOUR country gave its consent. Remember, w/o UN approval. Was it just different because the Prez was Clinton at the time? On top of that, Ted, the so-called Coalition of the willing is actually larger than Nato was in 1998-99.
Ted said:Why think that your political or economic system as better then his?
Are you wondering whether our political system is better than Saddam's
Iraq's :shock: ?
Ted said:Secondly. The 2nd point I tried to make is the conviction to call one system better then another. It's like comparing apples to peaches. It is obvious to compare a totalitarian system to a democracy and say the latter is better. But spreading your democracy across the world at a bloody cost, not taking into account many social and cultural specifics of a region, well... to be honest I reckon it is not so much better indeed.
I was against this war from the very start
Missileer said:Despotism doesn't allow anything outside the rules set down by a cruel system. Women are not people, other religions are forbidden as evil and satanic, only males are allowed to walk and talk in certain places, any man has a right to beat any woman who he feels is not strictly obeying another man's rules. Death, rather than punishment is preferred by the predominance of people living under Despotism. Suffering is the only lifestyle known by generation upon generation while a privileged few enjoy the lives of kings.
Same thing with Iraq. Noone violated those specifics when we let Iraq be the first Arab country where people can freely write on, read and publish one hundred newspapers or vote for the party they want.
What you call my democracy is not a false democracy and is virtually the same democracy that they have in Switzerland, or in Australia, or in Ireland, or in the US.
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