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The most they would do is board her to look for any secret code-books, and any new radar equipment, then they would sink her. She was only a heavy cruiser, the RN had enough heavy cruisers, they didn't need her. |
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May 2nd, 2009
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redcoat,
Look, Dont get me wrong ok, i care about PE ok, i always well, she a great cruiser, But i know her short falls, One of her biggest is her engines and bouiler, and i know that ok. But if you look against Dido and Devonshire the two ships take her back to gremany, she couldve handle herself against both of them, Her main Eight 8 inch / 60 calibre guns,, she from what i read, hit hood twice and POW three time, in the fight in Denmark stairts.. NIKKI |
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May 4th, 2009
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Hi, sorry to gatecrash your thread, but you guys seem like the right people to help me.
I'm looking for a detailed history of the Prince Eugen as I have been told that it was my grandfather who captained her after her surrender/capture. I know nothing about the ship and have recently become interested in my family history which has led me to try to find some sort of account which mentions my grandfather in relation to the Prince Eugen. My dad has a booklet and some photographs that were presented to my grandfather, but unfortunately, the letter which accompanied the presentation was thrown away by my grandfather  Can you guys recommend any good books which I ought to refer to? My grandfather was James Phillip O'Connor. I would be grateful for any information that can be spared 
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May 4th, 2009
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*Breyer, Siegfried/ Koop, Gerhard "Von der Emden bis zur Tirpitz" Bernard & Graefe Verlag 1995. Technical design history of the German combat fleet. *Breyer, Siegfried "Marine Arsenal Band 19, Schwerer Kreuzer Prinz Eugen" Podzun Verlag 1992. Excellent paperback with technical data, capsule history, photographs and a superb centerfold plan. *Busch, Fritz Otto "Prinz Eugen im Ersten Gefecht" Bertelsman 1943. Propagandistic narrative of Operation Rheinubung by official Kriegsmarine reporter assigned to PG. Some very interesting photos. *Busch, Fritz Otto "Schwerer Kreuzer Prinz Eugen" subtitled "Die Geschichte des Froehlichen Schiffes" Sponholz, 1958. An anecdotal history by former official Kriegsmarine reporter assigned to PG. Some photos. *Busch, Fritz Otto "Schwerer Kreuzer Prinz Eugen 1941-1942" subtitled "Britische Jagd auf ein deutsches Kriegsschiff" Erich Pabel Verlag 1986. Narrative of unsuccessful RAF air strikes against the Prinz Eugen. *Coker, P.C. "Building Warship Models" 1974 Cokercraft. Highly illustrated book featuring photographs and drawings of model ships and model ship building techniques. Includes centerfold plan of Prinz Eugen. A classic. *Friedman, Norman "Battleship Design and Development 1905-1945" Mayflower books 1978. Technical aspects of heavy warship design understandable to the layman. *Groener, Erich "Die Deutsche Kriegsschiffe 1815-1945 Band 1, Panzerschiffe, Linienschiffe, Schlachtschiffe, Flugzeugtraeger, Kreuzer, Kanonenboote" Bernard & Graefe Verlag, 1992. The standard historical reference on the ships of the German Navy. *Hansen, Hans Juergen "The Ships of the German Fleets, 1848-1945" Arco Press 1973. Pictorial history of the rise and fall of the German navy. Includes a sharp color photo of Prinz Eugen's A&B turrets. *Herzog, Bodo "Die Deutsche Marine im Kampf 1939-1945" Podzun Verlag, 1969. Excellent general pictorial of the Kriegsmarine. *Hodges, Peter "The Big Gun" subtitled "Battleship Main Armament 1860-1945". Good guide to naval artillery. *Humble, Richard "Hitler's High Seas Fleet" Ballantine 1974. Basic text on the German navy. *Koop, Gerhard/Schmolke, Klaus Peter "Die Schweren Kreuzer der Admiral Hipper-Klasse" Bernard & Graefe Verlag, 1992. Illustrated technical historical overview of the Kriegsmarine's heavy cruisers. (Also published in English Translation by Naval Institute Press.) *Koop, Gerhard/Schmolke, Klaus Peter "Vom Original zum Modell, die Schweren Kreuzer der Admiral Hipper-Klasse" Bernard & Graefe Verlag, 1993. Softcover pictorial companion to the above. Includes some nice technical drawings and (dubious) camouflage schemes *Potter, J.D. "Fiasco" Heinemann 1970. Excellent history of the Channel Dash. *Schmallenbach, Paul, "Die Geschichte der deutschen Schiffsartillerie" Koehlers Verlag 1968. Broad history & commentary of German naval artillery, written by Prinz Eugen's Artillery officer. *Schmallenbach, Paul, "Kreuzer Prinz Eugen unter 3 flaggen" Koehler Verlag, 1978. The official history of Prinz Eugen, written by the 1st Artillery Officer and based on ship's logs and interviews. Well-illustrated, well-narrated and accurate. By far the best book on Prinz Eugen. *Schmallenbach, Paul, "Warship Profile #6, Kriegsmarine Prinz Eugen" Doubleday & Company 1970. Illustrated booklet from this classic series, dense with technical and historical information. Excellent. *Sowinski, Lawrence "Warship Pictorial Prinz Eugen" in "Warship Volume III" Naval Institute Press 1979. Excellent dockside photographs from the US National Archives. All links came from this website... http://www.prinzeugen.com/PGIND.htm |
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May 4th, 2009
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He-he. Looks like he came to the right place for info.
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May 4th, 2009
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hey Cinnamon,
no, that fine. This thread started out about her in 1945, and just starting grow in to other topics on her.. She was such a cool cruiser! Sleek, fast, powerful as far as cruisers go, and on top of all of that. just a balanced cruiser. even through she an Achilles' heel which was her boiler, she was still i nice cruiser. and all that. NIKKI |
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June 18th, 2010
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Guys,
There is an add on here: If Prinz Eugen was able to escape from Dido, Devonshire, Iroqoois, Savage? How would she fair again the 10 heavy weights of the US Navy: North Carolina, Washington, South Dakota Indiana, Massachusetts, Alabama, Iowa, New Jersey, Wisconsin, Missouri and that's only if she had the legs to get out to Japan or would they (Dido, Devonshire, Iroqoois, Savage) trap her long before then? What you guys thing and explain it to me ok.. IF she did get out there(Pacific), I didnt went her getting in to a fight with these 10 ships. but could they (North Carolina, Washington, South Dakota Indiana, Massachusetts, Alabama, Iowa, New Jersey, Wisconsin, Missouri) Corner her and what would happened then and EXPLAIN it to me? my think with them just trapping her, and either, the four Iowa's take her back to britain, or the ten take her to a US Naval Base! Nikki |
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June 18th, 2010
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You still don't get it do you
 They wouldn't even attempt to capture the ship, they would just sink it as quickly as possible. You seem to think the Prinz Eugen was some sort of wonder ship, she wasn't. All she was, was a pretty looking heavy cruiser, nothing more. |
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June 20th, 2010
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redcoat,
What are you trying to tell me? And why is it i have more faith in her Nikki |
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June 20th, 2010
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Because you are looking at things and disregarding the realities of the time, today we can look at ships like the Prinz Eugen with a somewhat impartial attitude and regard them solely for their achievements and and engineering but 65 years ago it was nothing more than an enemy warship and had it for some reason chosen to fight on alone (although god knows why it would) it would have been hunted down and destroyed, plain and simple.
On the brighter side if you want to see the Prinz Eugen just follow the link below to Google earth and you will see the upturned hull off Enubuh atoll... http://maps.google.co.nz/maps/ms?hl=...04823&t=h&z=18 |
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