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The precautionary principle (Is Iran Next?)
 
September 25th, 2005  
Missileer
 
 
The precautionary principle (Is Iran Next?)
Europe and America are sinking quickly back into fragmented states, some strong, some weak. For whatever reasons of separation from a union, however loosely formed, we have weakened ourselves by letting forces from outside and within our countries weaken our resolve to put freedom first and foremost in our ultimate goal.

The democratic way of life with personal freedom of choices is under attack. While we bicker and argue about the silliest, most mundane problems that even a child would not bother with, we weaken more every day while the enemy becomes stronger.

In the end, it won't matter how strong militarily one country is without the others. We can fight battles with Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles and stealth technology or we can merge and form a formidable force capable of wars measured in days or months instead of years.

Right now, we are facing an enemy which uses fanaticism and ignorance to form a force which is not fragmented to the same degree as the rest of the world and has demonstrated a willingness to win at any cost including self destruction which is accepted as a win-win situation for them. Now, just give them nuclear capabilities and a nice soft spot use them which is what some of us are gladly supplying, for money.

If there is a modicrum of self preservation left in our psyche, any common sense to tell us that doing nothing is no longer, and never was, an option, then God help us and our children.
September 25th, 2005  
gladius
 
This is going the way of pre-WW2 again. Does anyone see this? Who knows this divide with the West may even result once more in US isolationism, but I doubt it, more like a non-cooperative, non-cohesive foreign policy.

With left-wing socialist Europe going the way of appeasement. The policy of appeasement which was main thing that let WW2 happen ("Peace in our time").

The rift is again directly apparent, since the US is the one right now willing to challenge these threats, whether directly or indirectly. The WW2 equivalent would be the Flying Tigers in China versus the Japs.

Nothing short of treating the problem at the source will do. The problem being Radical Islam, the source being the Middle East. Right now the only one willing to do this is really the US (with a few allies). Europe as whole is only willing to go with the "lets just get along" with the fundamental radical Islamic influnce in the Midlle East, which will only bring them another Hitler. Which is just as well, since if this happens its the European cities that will be ones to burn.
September 25th, 2005  
Italian Guy
 
 
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Originally Posted by gladius
The problem being Radical Islam, the source being the Middle East. Right now the only one willing to do this is really the US (with a few allies). Europe as whole is only willing to go with the "lets just get along" with the fundamental radical Islamic influnce in the Midlle East, which will only bring them another Hitler. Which is just as well, since if this happens its the European cities that will be ones to burn.
I often happen to agree with you Gladius when you express your view on Europe. I sadly have to agree this time too. Hope you appreciate my country being one of those "few allies" in a world war that we are bound to win, at any price. What I see around me here in Europe is a decadent, wealthy and spoiled society not willing to call threats "threats" and dangers "dangers". I see people and leaders turning their back on impending responsibilities. I also see a lot of people who understand and are ready to face the challenge of this day, yeah I do. It's just too discouraging to see big countries like Germany France or Spain letting other countries's sons sacrifice their lives for all. This is what makes me sick.

Anyways going
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The precautionary principle (Is Iran Next?)
September 25th, 2005  
gladius
 
Any allied help is greatly appreciated, and gains my respect for that country for willing to put themselves on line. I'm sure that feeling goes for others not only on this board but those that see the importance of this.
September 26th, 2005  
Doc.S
 
Adolf Hitler the 2nd?

Darth Vader ----->>>


President of terrorist superstate Ahmadinejad

Terrorist leader that keep hostages from U.S embassys up to 5 years. Here you have the 21st centurys Adolf Hitler in person. Problem is that he can be replaced by millions of others in a blink of an eye, by the real master of terror, head of cheif for all terrorism Dark Lord of the Sith Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei! The one that will kill every ****ing last one of us on this thread if we just gave him a chance to do so regardless if we worship him or are ready to give our lifes just to give back democray to the galaxy. The super star destroyers of womens rights the Sharia lovers **** yeah!

Emperor Palpatine the 2nd ---->>>


Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei

Doc.S
September 26th, 2005  
phoenix80
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gladius
This is going the way of pre-WW2 again. Does anyone see this? Who knows this divide with the West may even result once more in US isolationism, but I doubt it, more like a non-cooperative, non-cohesive foreign policy.

With left-wing socialist Europe going the way of appeasement. The policy of appeasement which was main thing that let WW2 happen ("Peace in our time").

The rift is again directly apparent, since the US is the one right now willing to challenge these threats, whether directly or indirectly. The WW2 equivalent would be the Flying Tigers in China versus the Japs.

Nothing short of treating the problem at the source will do. The problem being Radical Islam, the source being the Middle East. Right now the only one willing to do this is really the US (with a few allies). Europe as whole is only willing to go with the "lets just get along" with the fundamental radical Islamic influnce in the Midlle East, which will only bring them another Hitler. Which is just as well, since if this happens its the European cities that will be ones to burn.
I have seen this long before any one say that! Seriously, today reminds me of 1930s when Nazists and Fascists were united to take over the world and most democracies were scattered over unimportant issues.


Doc.S
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Terrorist leader that keep hostages from U.S embassys up to 5 years.
The American hostages were kept for 444 days... not 5 yrs!


A very good web site run by my friend James on US-Iran hostage Crisis

http://rescueattempt.tripod.com/



Admin edit: Please do not triple post.
September 26th, 2005  
bulldogg
 
 
Terry Anderson was kidnapped by Hezbollah forces and held from March 16, 1985 until December 4, 1991.

Get the picture or do you need the dots connected?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Anderson
September 26th, 2005  
phoenix80
 
 
I know him but you said US Hostages and I immediately thought of US Embassy!
September 26th, 2005  
Missileer
 
 
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Originally Posted by phoenix_aim54
I know him but you said US Hostages and I immediately thought of US Embassy!
My thoughts also. I knew of the other hostages but they were random kidnappings which was happening a lot. The US was very concerned about it's Embassy as that is considered sovereign to the country it represents.
September 27th, 2005  
bulldogg
 
 
Phoenix_aim54 fallaciously said:
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I know him but you said US Hostages and I immediately thought of US Embassy!
Bold type added for emphasis by this author.


Phoenix I did not say that. I was just helpin a brother out.