Pearl Harbour - Sleeping after the event?




 
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December 7th, 2010  
perseus
 
 

Topic: Pearl Harbour - Sleeping after the event?


I was listening to this account on the radio this morning

We are familiar with the surprise attack. However, I didn't realise the extent of disbelief and lethargy of the high ranking naval officials in the city area, despite loud explosions, and black smoke being visible from the harbour area. Admirals continued with their breakfast whilst a ship was being swerving then dissapearing in view of the dining room! When a hysterical woman came in, and told them what had happened, they told her she must be imagining it. However, gradually one by one the truth dawned on them and they quietly filtered out.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console..._Pearl_Harbour
December 7th, 2010  
George
 
The guy who told the radar operators not to worry about the incoming planes died this year. Imagine living with that for 70 years.
December 8th, 2010  
LeEnfield
 
 
The radar operator did his job and informed the relevant people the fact that they did nothing about it should not and did not reflect on him.
Pearl Harbour was a case of a Country being at peace and was not looking for a war starting that morning with out notice
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December 9th, 2010  
George
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeEnfield
The radar operator did his job and informed the relevant people the fact that they did nothing about it should not and did not reflect on him.
Wasn't talking about the radar operator(s), but the guy they reported the sighting to. He failed to send it up the chain.
December 9th, 2010  
LeEnfield
 
 
The Control Tower were expecting a flight of B17s and he assumed that is what the radio operator had seen, the last thing they were expecting was a few hundred angry Japanese warplanes.
December 10th, 2010  
George
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeEnfield
The Control Tower were expecting a flight of B17s and he assumed that is what the radio operator had seen, the last thing they were expecting was a few hundred angry Japanese warplanes.
Gee, Sounds like a surprise attack, but that's what the radar was for.
December 10th, 2010  
-- Dusty
 
 
Even if it were B-17s, wasn't it SOP to send out a couple Wildcats or Warhawks to confirm and welcome them?

And then, how hard is it for the tower to see the difference between the Mitsubishi A6M and a North American B-17. One has one engine and the other has four....
December 10th, 2010  
George
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hmmm
Even if it were B-17s, wasn't it SOP to send out a couple Wildcats or Warhawks to confirm and welcome them?

And then, how hard is it for the tower to see the difference between the Mitsubishi A6M and a North American B-17. One has one engine and the other has four....
You'd think they'd send a couple out, otherwise what's the point of the radar. By the time the Tower could see them it's way too late!
December 10th, 2010  
LeEnfield
 
 
The radar in those days just informed you that some thing was coming your way and they did not have any FFI indicators. Now you are at peace expecting a flight of B17 bombers and at about the same time you are informed that there is a contact on the radar, so what would you do, call an instant alert. Now remember that it was a Sunday morning and if you were not down for duty your time is much your own and many of the pilots would not have even been on the base. Also for extra security many of the planes had been all stacked together so that it would be hard for saboteur to get to them, and it would been hard to get out and airborne and most of these planes would not have been fueled or armed.
December 11th, 2010  
George
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeEnfield
The radar in those days just informed you that some thing was coming your way and they did not have any FFI indicators. Now you are at peace expecting a flight of B17 bombers and at about the same time you are informed that there is a contact on the radar, so what would you do, call an instant alert. Now remember that it was a Sunday morning and if you were not down for duty your time is much your own and many of the pilots would not have even been on the base. Also for extra security many of the planes had been all stacked together so that it would be hard for saboteur to get to them, and it would been hard to get out and airborne and most of these planes would not have been fueled or armed.
Obviously worried about the wrong threat. As the Japanese said, haven't they heard of Port Arthur? Too many asleep @ the switch @ many levels. I guess it's like not having a plane in position to shoot down the plane that hit the 2nd Tower on 9-11.
 


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