Pastors Plan to burn Koran endangers US troops - Page 5




 
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September 12th, 2010  
MontyB
 
 
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Originally Posted by Yossarian
I am still very concerned about the reaction of burning those holy books will cause.

Most Muslims as far as I know, consider the very book, something that is Holy, it is a little more than the words of their God, it in itself is a religious relic of sorts.
You know what concerns me, the level of pandering the West seems determined to put itself through to pretend we are the good guys.

What is more important to our society freedom of speech and expression or keeping a people happy that fly off the handle at anything they don't like?

Why is it we can look at the likes of Bin Laden and sell him as an extremist nutjob that is not indicative of Islam yet Muslims will not look at this pastor in exactly the same light?

I am all for equality in all things but it has to work both ways, I personally think this guy is an idiot of epic proportions but we have built our societies on protecting his right to be an idiot.
September 12th, 2010  
LeMask
 
Well, we cant afford to be idiots anymore...

Japan has a wonderful car industry, Europe have factories running again, China is Waking up, Russia is ruled by a smart and effective little mafia like organisation (not ruled by a retarded dictator anymore), India is rising too, even the Arabs arent retarded desert dwellers like they used to be and we even start to care about Africa...

Oh, I forgot South America, I always forget these guys... Even Canada starts to matter...

I tell you one thing buddy, the world is falling apart...
September 12th, 2010  
MontyB
 
 
Dude when hasn't the world been falling apart, nations and empires rise, fall and rise again and if it is falling apart then perhaps this is the time for strength of character rather than appeasement.

For the record:
Japanese auto industry is strong because it adapted to a changing world without sacrificing its core aims.
Europe factories are running again because Europe now has an economy that is constantly being destroyed by armies marching over it.
China with a couple of billion people to feed and well over half of them poor and illiterate will never reach the quality of the wests products because they can't steal an idea fast enough.
Russia who really cares outside the cities it is still a peasant economy, a problem that has plagued it for well over 300 years.
India (See China).
Arabs, once the oil is gone they will be back to hiking through the desert.
South America, yeah right about the only thing they can export is revolution.
Canada, far too smart to want to be involved with the rest of the world.
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September 12th, 2010  
perseus
 
 
It seems the 'burning' has been delayed indefinitely. Perhaps the real reason was this:

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WORLD BREATHES EASY AS SAD LITTLE MAN DECIDES HE'S HAD ENOUGH ATTENTION

THE world was breathing a sigh of relief last night as the self-appointed head of a tiny church decided he had had enough attention for the time being.



It wasn't even the real Terry Jones



Pastor Terry Jones said he would return to exploiting workers in his faith-based furniture business after getting the entire planet to stop what it was doing and listen to his idiotic nonsense for over a week.

He said: "That was remarkably easy. In fact it sort of feels like a wasted opportunity. Oh well.

"I don't suppose anyone would like to buy a dining table?"

But as Jones went back to being a lonely fruitcake, thousands of other people who represent no-one unveiled their plans to be phoned-up by President Obama and told they are a threat to world peace.

Bill McKay, from Grantham, said: "I've just set up the Global Church for Love and Freedom. At the moment it's me, my blow-up wife, our two beautiful DVD players and my invisible friend Stephen.

"It's currently based behind my fridge, but we are hoping to move to the downstairs lavatory if Stephen brings along some of his chums.

"Anyway, this weekend, as an act of protest, myself and my wife are going to set fire to this drawing of Buddha because I hate Buddha. His values offend me and he is also the Devil.

"Now, which microphone would you like me to speak into? Shall we start by talking about the kind of person I am and what motivates me?"

Helen Archer, founder of the International Centre for a Global World, currently based on the passenger seat of her Honda Jazz, said: "To mark the 164th anniversary of the invention of the sewing machine, I am going to take an electric sander to this statue of the Virgin Mary, because it looked at me strangely.

"I will not back down until Princess Anne takes me to see Toy Story 3 and buys me a strawberry Cornetto."
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/i...-201009103078/
September 12th, 2010  
Yossarian
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MontyB
You know what concerns me, the level of pandering the West seems determined to put itself through to pretend we are the good guys.

What is more important to our society freedom of speech and expression or keeping a people happy that fly off the handle at anything they don't like?

Why is it we can look at the likes of Bin Laden and sell him as an extremist nutjob that is not indicative of Islam yet Muslims will not look at this pastor in exactly the same light?

I am all for equality in all things but it has to work both ways, I personally think this guy is an idiot of epic proportions but we have built our societies on protecting his right to be an idiot.
That is totally not the way I see the situation, I don't try to convince myself one side is "good" or the other is "evil", I live in a place where policy makers do that for me.

But I do not just seek tolerance, but hope for a quiet coexsistance between the two very different worlds, cause I don't know about anyone esle, but it is nice sleeping peacefully at night, and a lot of people in a lot of places are putting everything on the line for that.

That's what I'm looking at, leave the social and political discussions to those who have the breath for it.
September 12th, 2010  
MontyB
 
 
The problem is that you dont get quiet coexistence through acquiescence to anger you just make people understand that anger gets them what they want, you get quiet coexistence from mutual respect and understanding and that requires both parties to participate.
September 12th, 2010  
LeMask
 
There is no peace without equality...

You cant live with people who think they are superior/act they are superior.

You cant live in peace with people who try to bring down your economy.

etc...

The problem is the economic system, we are waging wars at each others, some by dropping bombs, others by selling cars...

No peace in such conditions. Everybody is trying to sell something... Even religions are for sale.
September 12th, 2010  
Prapor
 
 
Separatist/terrorist swine in Kabardino-Balkarya, Russia, tried to blow up a monument to World War II heros. Severely damaged it, temporarily extinguished the eternal flame. 100,000 Korans should be burnt for this. A few mosques along with them maybe too. You may think it is not politically correct to say this, but we in Russia are seriously tired of this crap. Many want not police forces, but the army to come back into North Caucasus and restore order there once and for all. Like Stalin did.

You know, it's not even actual Caucasians who cause trouble there. It is these mojaheds, Afghans, Arabs, Turks. Islamist human garbage. Russia, Israel, China, India, USA, NATO should unite and deal with this once and for all.
September 12th, 2010  
LeMask
 
You think that you are so much better than this "human garbage"?

After reading your post, I dont think so...
September 12th, 2010  
Yossarian
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MontyB
The problem is that you dont get quiet coexistence through acquiescence to anger you just make people understand that anger gets them what they want, you get quiet coexistence from mutual respect and understanding and that requires both parties to participate.

Shortening it with the old adage, force equals force, I was implying that mutual respect and understanding is the way to go, no pre judged assumptions, or one culture seeming inferior to another, the way I see things is as vain as you may perceive.
 


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