the other side in the life of Adolf Hitler.

[Micha]

Well, there's nothing to be surprised at. They don't have every family having at least one member killed in war or tortured to death in Oswiencim or Treblinka. Pretty soon Europe will forget this as well, i'm sure. In Russia they have neo-nazis, what should one expect from the Middle East?

And that's quite natural i think. Nazism can't be banned forever. It's like a father trying to bring up a kid by prohibiting smth because it's bad.

It has nothing to do with this. It's about that many in the Arab world sees Hitler as a prophet because of the anti-Semitism in Nazi ideology.

Another thing which is also very popular in these countries is: “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” a forged antisemitic text purporting to describe a Jewish plan to achieve global domination. The Protocols also became a part of the Nazi propaganda effort to justify persecution of the Jews.The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is made into a TV series and has been shown on Arab television and the book is still a bestseller.

That's what I think is disturbing.

The most important book to read on the Palestinians, the Arabs and the Nazis has, unfortunately, not yet been translated into English. Klaus-Michael Mallmann and Martin Cüppers’ Halbmond und Hakenkreuz. Das "Dritte Reich", die Araber und Palästina, translated Crescent Moon and Swastika: The Third Reich, the Arabs, and Palestine was published September, 2006.

Mallmann and Cuppers show that virulent Arab anti-Semitism is older than the founding of the state of Israel in 1948, and they demonstrate what part Nazi Germany had in its propagation. Their work is based on investigations in German archives.

Dr. Klaus-Michael Mallman, the author of many books on Germany and the Holocaust, is Privatdozent für Neuere Geschichte at the University of Essen. Martin Cuppers is a researcher at the Forschungsstelle Ludwigsburg, and has published an important book on the command staff and office of the Reichsfuhrer SS, the Head of the SS, Heinrich Himmler.

 

[Yin717]

I'd like to ask this. If you consider Hitler, and supposedly his strong Nazi followers, monsters then what you would classify the Soviet soldiers after the war who raped and abused most of the German citizens? Does that make them monsters? Or were they, just like Hitler, 'normal' people who just had some evil thoughts and put them into practice? The list is endless of people who have done 'monstrous' things like Hitler. To be totally frank, I don't believe you could be an out of your monster with no sense of normality and be able to lead a country to an amazing feat. Hitler was an outstanding leader. If he hadn't had his Nazi ideology he would probably be rated as one of the best leaders this world has seen.

 

[Micha]

I'd like to ask this. If you consider Hitler, and supposedly his strong Nazi followers, monsters then what you would classify the Soviet soldiers after the war who raped and abused most of the German citizens? Does that make them monsters? Or were they, just like Hitler, 'normal' people who just had some evil thoughts and put them into practice? The list is endless of people who have done 'monstrous' things like Hitler. To be totally frank, I don't believe you could be an out of your monster with no sense of normality and be able to lead a country to an amazing feat. Hitler was an outstanding leader. If he hadn't had his Nazi ideology he would probably be rated as one of the best leaders this world has seen.

Rape and abused of civilians is a war crime no mater who does it.

When anyone talks about Hitler they mention that he got the country out of a huge economical crisis and raising the spirits of Germany, but what they seem to forget is that he then drove all of that down to the ground. He raised their economy by making weapons to go to war, he raised their spirits so they would want to go to war, he made awful tactical decisions. Hitler was a great politician because he knew how to use the crisis to brainwash the crowd. People wanted change, and he promised change, also he made the communists look bad by framing them for burning down some important building. He was great at holding speeches, but not a good leader even if you don't count the genocide.

 

[Yin717]

When anyone talks about Hitler they mention that he got the country out of a huge economical crisis and raising the spirits of Germany, but what they seem to forget is that he then drove all of that down to the ground. He raised their economy by making weapons to go to war, he raised their spirits so they would want to go to war, he made awful tactical decisions. Hitler was a great politician because he knew how to use the crisis to brainwash the crowd. People wanted change, and he promised change, also he made the communists look bad by framing them for burning down some important building. He was great at holding speeches, but not a good leader even if you don't count the genocide.

But haven't all great leaders just been politicians who have known who to 'brainwash' the people?

 

[senojekips]

ler they mention that he got the country out of a huge economical crisis and raising the spirits of Germany, but what they seem to forget is that he then drove all of that down to the ground. He raised their economy by making weapons to go to war, he raised their spirits so they would want to go to war, he made awful tactical decisions.

I raised that point to demonstrate why I think Hitler got such a huge following from the German people. I would propose that had Germany not been in such a horrendous position as it was in those years, Hitler would never have amounted to anything more than another Bier Keller blowhard.

The art of public speaking is highly valued among those who wish to acquire power and this is one point where many 'would be' politicians fall on hard ground, if you can't inspire the majority of those you are addressing, you might as well go home as far as ever really getting anywhere in politics unless you have a gimmick. Hitler had it down to an art form, he could read his audience before he had ever uttered a syllable.

 

[Del Boy]

You know why middle eastern (especially palastine) like Hitler ?


2-the good relation between (islamic leader in palastine and hitler).

3-many soldiers in Hitler army were muslims

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This is no ordinary Islamic leader you see with the Nazis, this is Amin Al Hussaini, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Hitler’s closest admirer and ally; he had to be reined in by the Nazis because he could not wait to get into WW11 for them, offered to wipe out the Jews of the world for them, and begged to be in control of the final the final solution of the those Jews after the war in Europe had been won by them. He had visited Europe’s death camps and lived mainly in Berlin from 1941 – 1945.

He was the Nazis’ chief architect in Bosnia and was the main contributor to the continuing blood-shed thereafter. He outlawed the Serbian Cyrillic alphabet. Christian Serbs had to wear blue armbands, Jews yellow. 100,000 Bosnian muslims joined the Nazi forces.

He approved the Pejani Plan calling for the elimination of the Serbian population. (the Nazis did not go ahead with this plan.).

Victims : Christian Serbs , 200,000; Jewish Bosnians : 22000; Gypsies, 40000.

He personally blocked the efforts of the Nazi High Command and the Red Cross to exchange 10,000 Jewish Children for Nazi POWs. These children were headed off to the gas chambers.

He created the Hanzer division of Nazi muslim soldiers in Bosnia, the largest division of the Third Reich army, 26000 men and participated in the genocide of Serbian and Jewish populations.

He had earlier participated first hand in the Armenian genocide as an Ottoman officer, when 1,500,000 christians were slaughtered.

He was the great orchestrator of The Muslim Brotherhood founded in Egypt, the Wahabbi principles carried on today by Osama Bin Laden. He created the Nazism of the Middle East and North Africa which we see displayed today in all its disgusting ugliness.

He had close reationships with the Nazi high command and later reported that Himmler had told him, in response to questions regarding the 'final solution', that they had already gassed 3 million so were well on the way.

 

[Yin717]

This is no ordinary Islamic leader you see with the Nazis, this is Amin Al Hussaini, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Hitler’s closest admirer and ally; he had to be reined in by the Nazis because he could not wait to get into WW11 for them, offered to wipe out the Jews of the world for them, and begged to be in control of the final the final solution of the those Jews after the war in Europe had been won by them. He had visited Europe’s death camps and lived mainly in Berlin from 1941 – 1945.

He was the Nazis’ chief architect in Bosnia and was the main contributor to the continuing blood-shed thereafter. He outlawed the Serbian Cyrillic alphabet. Christian Serbs had to wear blue armbands, Jews yellow. 100,000 Bosnian muslims joined the Nazi forces.

He approved the Pejani Plan calling for the elimination of the Serbian population. (the Nazis did not go ahead with this plan.).

Victims : Christian Serbs , 200,000; Jewish Bosnians : 22000; Gypsies, 40000.

He personally blocked the efforts of the Nazi High Command and the Red Cross to exchange 10,000 Jewish Children for Nazi POWs. These children were headed off to the gas chambers.

He created the Hanzer division of Nazi muslim soldiers in Bosnia, the largest division of the Third Reich army, 26000 men and participated in the genocide of Serbian and Jewish populations.

He had earlier participated first hand in the Armenian genocide as an Ottoman officer, when 1,500,000 christians were slaughtered.

He was the great orchestrator of The Muslim Brotherhood founded in Egypt, the Wahabbi principles carried on today by Osama Bin Laden. He created the Nazism of the Middle East and North Africa which we see displayed today in all its disgusting ugliness.

He had close reationships with the Nazi high command and later reported that Himmler had told him, in response to questions regarding the 'final solution', that they had already gassed 3 million so were well on the way.

Ouch! And people thought Hitler was bad!

 

[Elsarof]

This is no ordinary Islamic leader you see with the Nazis, this is Amin Al Hussaini, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Hitler’s closest admirer and ally; he had to be reined in by the Nazis because he could not wait to get into WW11 for them, offered to wipe out the Jews of the world for them, and begged to be in control of the final the final solution of the those Jews after the war in Europe had been won by them. He had visited Europe’s death camps and lived mainly in Berlin from 1941 – 1945.

He was the Nazis’ chief architect in Bosnia and was the main contributor to the continuing blood-shed thereafter. He outlawed the Serbian Cyrillic alphabet. Christian Serbs had to wear blue armbands, Jews yellow. 100,000 Bosnian muslims joined the Nazi forces.

He approved the Pejani Plan calling for the elimination of the Serbian population. (the Nazis did not go ahead with this plan.).

Victims : Christian Serbs , 200,000; Jewish Bosnians : 22000; Gypsies, 40000.

He personally blocked the efforts of the Nazi High Command and the Red Cross to exchange 10,000 Jewish Children for Nazi POWs. These children were headed off to the gas chambers.

He created the Hanzer division of Nazi muslim soldiers in Bosnia, the largest division of the Third Reich army, 26000 men and participated in the genocide of Serbian and Jewish populations.

He had earlier participated first hand in the Armenian genocide as an Ottoman officer, when 1,500,000 christians were slaughtered.

He was the great orchestrator of The Muslim Brotherhood founded in Egypt, the Wahabbi principles carried on today by Osama Bin Laden. He created the Nazism of the Middle East and North Africa which we see displayed today in all its disgusting ugliness.

He had close reationships with the Nazi high command and later reported that Himmler had told him, in response to questions regarding the 'final solution', that they had already gassed 3 million so were well on the way.

well i know only his name not his history , but u r wrong about something ...Muslim brotherhood created by (Hassan El-bna) and he was Egyptian and that was in 1928 they had no relation with Amin(their website is http://www.ikhwanonline.com you can ask them)+ Do u know wats wahabi means ?

 

[Seehund]

well i know only his name not his history , but u r wrong about something ...Muslim brotherhood created by (Hassan El-bna) and he was Egyptian and that was in 1928 they had no relation with Amin(their website is http://www.ikhwanonline.com you can ask them)+ Do u know wats wahabi means ?

Hassan al-Banna founded the Muslim Brotherhood in the city of Ismailia in March 1928. Links to the Nazis began during the 1930s and were close during the Second World War, involving agitation against the British, espionage and sabotage, as well as support for terrorist activities orchestrated by Haj Amin el-Hussaini in British Mandate Palestine, as a wide range of declassified documents from the British, American and Nazi German governmental archives, as well as from personal accounts and memoirs from that period, confirm.

 

[Elsarof]

Hassan al-Banna founded the Muslim Brotherhood in the city of Ismailia in March 1928. Links to the Nazis began during the 1930s and were close during the Second World War, involving agitation against the British, espionage and sabotage, as well as support for terrorist activities orchestrated by Haj Amin el-Hussaini in British Mandate Palestine, as a wide range of declassified documents from the British, American and Nazi German governmental archives, as well as from personal accounts and memoirs from that period, confirm.

he went to egypt to get support for palestine against england and jews , yes he met hassan el bna and thats a pic

But the egyptian governemnt by Gamal didn't like his stay in egypt until he was forced to leave cairo to beirut in 1958 he didn't have the chance to Recruiting or prepare soldiers to send them to palestine.

the only relation between them is to fight jews and english but that didn't happen in that time. so nuthin happened , el bna didn't send him soldiers after that,cuz he was killed. and thats all i know


http://www.aljazeeratalk.net/forum/showthread.php?p=3306076

 

[Del Boy]

well i know only his name not his history , but u r wrong about something ...Muslim brotherhood created by (Hassan El-bna) and he was Egyptian and that was in 1928 they had no relation with Amin(their website is http://www.ikhwanonline.com you can ask them)+ Do u know wats wahabi means ?

You are quite wrong on this one. Yes, the Muslim Brotherhood originated in Egypt, in Ismalia - in fact I served there in the early 1950,s; preventing them from destroying pipe-lines, and carrying out other activities; I spent a year under canvas within ear-shot of them.
However Amin Al Hussaini from his position of power, was the man who developed it; he became not only the Mufti of Jerusalem but also the Head of the Muslim councils etc throughout the middle east. He was very active in the middle east in 1914 - 22 when all the trouble we see today was started - by him. He orchestrated the slaughter of Hebron Jews and others, who had lived there for thousands of years. He was the top man in such affairs and Osama Bin Laden carries on his mandate.

Before Amin Al Hussaini the Muslims and Jews had lived comfortably together for thousands of years. This man is the culprit for the terrible anti-semitism against the Jews throughout the Middle East - long before land became an issue.

 

[Elsarof]

You are quite wrong on this one. Yes, the Muslim Brotherhood originated in Egypt, in Ismalia - in fact I served there in the early 1950,s; preventing them from destroying pipe-lines, and carrying out other activities; I spent a year under canvas within ear-shot of them.
However Amin Al Hussaini from his position of power, was the man who developed it; he became not only the Mufti of Jerusalem but also the Head of the Muslim councils etc throughout the middle east. He was very active in the middle east in 1914 - 22 when all the trouble we see today was started - by him. He orchestrated the slaughter of Hebron Jews and others, who had lived there for thousands of years. He was the top man in such affairs and Osama Bin Laden carries on his mandate.

Before Amin Al Hussaini the Muslims and Jews had lived comfortably together for thousands of years. This man is the culprit for the terrible anti-semitism against the Jews throughout the Middle East - long before land became an issue.

well it's obvious u know history better than me ,well i don't support killing jews cuz they r just jews , nope they have the right to live just as us we had many jews living in egypt exactly in alexandria but they left egypt after wat happened in gamal abdel nasser period, anyway if amin planned to kill innocent jews then i must say we egyptians Have been fooled,but if he planned to fight jews soldiers and english who occupied his land then he has the right to do that.

what u think ?

 

[Del Boy]

well it's obvious u know history better than me ,well i don't support killing jews cuz they r just jews , nope they have the right to live just as us we had many jews living in egypt exactly in alexandria but they left egypt after wat happened in gamal abdel nasser period, anyway if amin planned to kill innocent jews then i must say we egyptians Have been fooled,but if he planned to fight jews soldiers and english who occupied his land then he has the right to do that.

what u think ?

1914-1917​

Husseini’s First Taste of Jihad​

Allegiance to Ottoman Empire

Amin Al Husseini: Ottoman Empire Officer ​

Amin Al-Husseini swears allegiance to the Ottoman Empire during the Armenian genocide . He is an officer stationed in Smyrna and participates first-hand in the Armenian genocide. One and a half million Christians are slaughtered under the sword of Islamic Jihad by the Ottoman Army. Allegiance to Ottoman Empire and Islamic world take-over will be echoed by Osama Bin Laden in his post-September 11th declaration ​

1917


Pan-Islamic Vision Comes to Palestine​

Amin Al-Husseini returns to Palestine. He brings with him lessons of genocide and the vision of leading a Pan-Islamic empire, where Jews and Christians are not acceptable.​

1920 ​

The Violence Begins​

1920/1921. Riots. Amin Al-Husseini becomes lead figure in organizing riots against locals. Amin Al-Husseini begins life-long campaign of inciting hate between Jews and Muslims under British Mandate of Palestine. He begins rule of terror over local Muslim leaders, who denounce him as an ignorant thug.​

1921​

Grand Mufti Against​

The Will of The People​

The British, against the local Muslim vote, appoint Amin Al-Husseini as Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. Amin Al-Husseini came in a poor fourth place in the vote . The Muslim community rejected his candidacy because he had not received any credible Islamic education. He was neither a Sheikh (religiously accredited leader) nor an Alim (Islamic scholar). He becomes the pre-eminent Arab power in Palestine. His brutality becomes notorious and is rejected by local Muslim leadership. ​

1922​

Head of Supreme Muslim Council​

Amin Al-Husseini is appointed Head of Supreme Muslim Council (1922-1937) . He is hugely disappointed by the end of the Ottoman Empire under Ataturk. Husseini becomes fanaticized by the idea that he must restore the lost Islamic Empire. He vows to fight all Muslim seculars.​

1922​

Jerusalem Capital​

Amin Al-Husseini implements restoration of Dome of the Rock and Al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem . He has the Dome gold-plated for the first time. Thereafter, Jerusalem takes on more importance as Holy Muslim site in the eyes of the Arab World.​

1928​

Husseini Joins Muslim Brotherhood​

Muslim Brotherhood established in Egypt by Hassan El Banna in 1928. Amin Al-Husseini becomes a central member and ideological inspiration for the Muslim Brotherhood. Mother organization for today’s Egyptian Islamic Jihad and Hamas . The Muslim Brotherhood preaches Wahhabi Islam , which justifies violent means to rid the ‘Muslim world’ of its non-Islamic element. It envisions a Pan-Islamic Empire, where strict Islamic law rules over all. ​

1929​

Hebron Massacre​

Amin Al-Husseini organizes more riots in Palestine. He spreads false rumors to further turn the local Muslims against the Jews. Random murdering of Hebron Jews begins. Hebron Jewish community was over 2,000 years old.​

1931​

Founder of ​

World Islamic Congress​

Amin Al-Husseini starts to build his own political base. He preaches Islamic unity and creates the World Islamic Congress in 1931.​

From The Muslim Brotherhood to the Third Reich​

Amin Al-Husseini / Adolf Hitler Connection​

1933-2002​

1933​

Hitler Finds Arab Support ​

Arab Nazi political groups spring up throughout Middle East:
. Young Egypt. Led by Muslim Brotherhood member Abdul Gamal Nasser (future Egyptian President). Young Egypt’s political slogan “One Folk, One Party, One Leader” is a direct translation from German of Nazi slogan.​

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[Wolf]

Interesting enough, the more pictures of him with children I see, the more of a negative effect it has. I couldn't help but wonder what it would be like if that were a Jewish kid standing in front of him.

 

[Elsarof]

Del Boy

I forgot , u said u served there in the early 1950

u were an english soldier in egypt ?

 

[Del Boy]

Del Boy

I forgot , u said u served there in the early 1950

u were an english soldier in egypt ?

Yes, I was there for some 18 months-, protecting the Suez Canal, based in the desert garrison of Tel-El-Kebir and then El Ballah and at Gebel Maryan for a short period, on the canal. I visited Port Said, which actually was out of bounds, on a few occasions. My regiment was just about the last to leave Egypt in 1954 and we marched through Port Suez to the Troopship Empire Ken in full uniform, kilts and all, with our Pipe Band leading. The Band played us right onto the ship and out of port.

Enormous crowds massed all the way on both sides of the road and the crowds cheered and waved. I felt it was an occasion of goodwill, but I was only 19, so too optimistic, perhaps.

I did hanker to return and live there for a while, but the opportunity never arose again. I loved the hot dry climate.

 

[Korean Seaboy]

Can we get back to the topic?
Personally, I think Hitler had two motives for having pictures like these
1. Propaganda
2. Real affection
He truly believed that the "Aryan" race was better than other races (Naw! Koreans Rule! Sorry for my spontaneous foolish nationalism), so he really loved these "Aryan" children.