opinions wanted




 
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December 7th, 2003  
diplomatic_means
 

Topic: opinions wanted


Ok so I know yall have done this in several threads but being as I'm too lazy to go through and read all of them, could everyone who wants to put up a summary of their opinions of the recent War in Iraq? You can post abot any or all aspects of it and make it as long as you want. I have to write a paper in a week or so about my opinion of the war and I don't have much of one so I figured getting some help from people who actually know military stuff better than me might be able to help me form an opinion. Thanks.
December 7th, 2003  
GuyontheRight
 
Anyway you look at it, Saddam is a threat to the world. I don't want to hear any of that he was contained sh*t, because this guy was dangerouse. That being said there were WMDs beetween the time of the UN weapon's inspectores being expelled in '98 and the war. My best guest is he destroyed them to turn public opinion against the US, although Ive heard some say they may be in Syria or Lebanon in the custody of Hezbollah and the likes.

As for recent times don't let the media fool you, there are good things happening, but it is my opinion US and British media has encouraged the terrorists further and dilebritaly attempted to sway US opinion. Channels like CNN made clear that they were against this war.

I think Tommy Franks in all respects is partially to blame. He guessed that Saddam would be as egoistic as in the last war and try to fight a driect, conventional campaign with armor and infantry. Apparently he learned his lesson, employing guerilla's instead. I suspect Iran, Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and others had terrorist wannabe's truck themselves in before the war to set up the insugency we know see.


The biggest mistake the US can make is leaving Iraq right now. That will cause instability my generation is gonna have to put up with 10 years down the road. The American people need to wake up and understand this is a war, and people die. And frankly I dont appreciate our government telling schoolchildren the best bet is just to pack it up and run away. For the sake of the Iraqi's and the lives of our fallen soldiers we cannot just leave.

Lastly this war is not like Vietnam, no matter how much people wanna say it is. At this rate, it would take us over 100 years in Iraq to equal the casualties from that war.
April 21st, 2005  
Desert_Eagle
 
My thoughts are that we were justified going in. A friend of mine said the Iraqis had bio weapons and in the middle of combat had to put his gas mask on every 5 minutes. We also deposed a psycotic dictator and got help to these people.
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April 21st, 2005  
Farseer
 
I was against the war against Iraq as well as were most Finns, I suppose. I agree that Saddam was one bastard but in the world is multiple bastards like him still left. There might have been peaceful resolution still left to make as sure as possible that Iraq would not be threat to world. And only if it would have failed and most of UN would have agreed armed assault war could have been an option.

Still, what's done is done and cannot be undone. Even if war in Iraq was mistake, it would be another mistake to take out those forces. Even Saddam was evil dictator, during his time at least most of people in Iraq lived in peace. Retreating from Iraq now would left entire country into anarchy and could lead into bloody civil war. Now, with US and UK and some other countries in Iraq, it is most important to rebuild Iraqs infastructure and political stability together with UN and those countries who were against entire war.
April 22nd, 2005  
beardo
 
Even though he was killing kurds faster than the Nazis were killing Jews?
April 22nd, 2005  
chewie_nz
 
[quote="GuyontheRight"] Anyway you look at it, Saddam is a threat to the world.[quote]

the world? no.

direct neibours? deffinately.

[quote="GuyontheRight"]The biggest mistake the US can make is leaving Iraq right now.[quote]

on this i agree with you.

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Originally Posted by GuyontheRight
Lastly this war is not like Vietnam, no matter how much people wanna say it is. At this rate, it would take us over 100 years in Iraq to equal the casualties from that war.

i would clarify....this is THIS GENERATIONS VIETNAM, an unpopular, politically motivated war being fought on TV in our homes.
April 22nd, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
Quote:
i would clarify....this is THIS GENERATIONS VIETNAM, an unpopular, politically motivated war being fought on TV in our homes.
Nice rhetoric, Chewie, but for anybody who actually lived through Vietnam that's laughable. Vietnam was a massive car wreck that went on for over a decade. Iraq is a fender bender in comparison.

Saddam needed to go down, few reasonable people debate that. How we did it etc. may or may not be open for question. The net result is the area is better off by far already and will continue to improve. And though it will take more work yet to come, greater stability in the region will be a benefit to all. If anything, it has exposed the al Queda for the violent hateful people they are. They would rather kill their fellow Muslims then have anything but their own way. Such a movement must be eradicated.
April 22nd, 2005  
ARMYMOM
 
 
This is not this generations Vietnam. Everyone I know supports the troops. Which was not the case in Vietnam. Regardless on why or how we got there, you will see no spitting on troops or any type of disrespect.
April 22nd, 2005  
Mikey
 

Topic: My thoughts


Well in regards to the WMD thing I have this thought. Saddam definately had them pre-1991, but unfortunately with the fall of the USSR and with the Clinton cutbacks the US did not have great intel cabability to know for certain if he still have him. Also I give Saddam credit, he had everyone including his own people and military fooled that he still had some sort of capability, and the jury is still not 100% sure that there was absolutely no WMDs. It was actually a good defensive measure for Saddam, in a sense. But that deception actually made Saddam a liability after 9/11 and the anthrax attacks. While I am a republican, I have mixed feeling about Bush handling of the War. I think he rushed both Afghanstan and Iraq conflicts and, the objectives of both wars the capture or killing of Bin Laden and the containment of WMDs in Iraq and keeping them out of terrorist hands (aka truck convoys going to Syria and possible Iraqi weapon being used in Sudan). However, this Iraqi war and the taking down Saddam all stems from the violations of UN charter, 11 years of Iraqi aggression and abuse on it own population. It is a basic clean-up of the original Gulf War (something that Bush Sr ended too soon and Clinton dared never to fix himself). Bush's overall outcome is positive with a possible Democratic revolution across the middle east. Also there are rumors now that Saddam had supporting roles in 9/11, the first WTC attack, and even the OK city bombing and the downing of flight 800, as time goes by I think more will be reveiled on Saddam's role with Terrorism in the US.
April 22nd, 2005  
Swift
 
I believe that every thing that we have accomplished for these people is a great thing. We are giving them the freedom that they have never had but rightfully deserve.