One Explanation For Leftsts

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There just had to be a scientific explanation for Liberalism. This article is titled "Liberalism Is A Mental Disease" :wink:
Liberals clinically mad, concludes top psychiatrist
Eminent doctor makes case leftist ideology is a mental disorder

Posted: November 12, 2008
6:33 pm Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily



WASHINGTON – Just when liberals thought it was safe to start identifying themselves as such, an acclaimed, veteran psychiatrist is making the case that the ideology motivating them is actually a mental disorder.

"Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded," says Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book, "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness." "Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave."

While political activists on the other side of the spectrum have made similar observations, Rossiter boasts professional credentials and a life virtually free of activism and links to "the vast right-wing conspiracy."

For more than 35 years he has diagnosed and treated more than 1,500 patients as a board-certified clinical psychiatrist and examined more than 2,700 civil and criminal cases as a board-certified forensic psychiatrist. He received his medical and psychiatric training at the University of Chicago.

Rossiter says the kind of liberalism being displayed by both Barack Obama and his Democratic primary opponent Hillary Clinton can only be understood as a psychological disorder.

"A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity – as liberals do," he says. "A political leader who understands human nature will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose economic and social equality on the population – as liberals do. And a legislator who understands human nature will not create an environment of rules which over-regulates and over-taxes the nation's citizens, corrupts their character and reduces them to wards of the state – as liberals do."

Dr. Rossiter says the liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:

creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;
augmenting primitive feelings of envy;
rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government.
"The roots of liberalism – and its associated madness – can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind," he says. "When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious."
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http://lexann.vox.com/library/post/liberalism-is-a-mental-disease.html
 
"A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity"


So... The whole idea that military service should be mandatory (a common thought among RIGHT wing idealists,) is ensuring free choice and voluntary cooperation?


All I know is that the world would go to hell in a hand basket on the express lane without the government, so saying that there should be little or no government involvement is DEFINITELY not the right way to go....
 
Only if you believe what the author says. I thought it was at least interesting even though it's dated in the midst of the election. I am curious to see what others' reactions might be.
 
Rob Henderson said:
"A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity"


So... The whole idea that military service should be mandatory (a common thought among RIGHT wing idealists,) is ensuring free choice and voluntary cooperation?
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The only calls during the Bush Admin for a return to the Draft was from Democrats, no doubt hoping to completely recreate the 60s including anti-Govt(anti-Bush) draft riots.
 
I did not say Bush administration. I said right wing idealists. This article is talking about liberals in general, and only mentions Obama and Clinton as examples. Therefore, I will talk about conservatism in general, and use... Well, most of the people from where I live, as examples. I know plenty of current and former military men who say "I believe military service should be mandatory for everyone at some point in their lives."
 
ROFL...

Yeah, so I have been mad all those years (the original subtitle is actually: "The Psychological Causes of Political Madness"), maybe like the homos ("gays" for US Americans)?

Come on, this is for money (his home page):

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[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1] If you would prefer to spend your time discussing a case or would like a list of cases in which I've testified, please feel free to call me at (630)587-5710 for a consultation at no charge. I will give you my initial impressions of your case. If I can't help you directly, I'll try to refer you to someone who can. [/SIZE][/FONT]
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Check the ad for his book (http://www.libertymind.com/):

Read The Liberal Mind and learn why:
  • The laws and moral codes--the rules--that properly govern human conduct arise from, and must be compatible with, the biological, psychological and social nature of man.
  • The liberal agenda’s Modern Parental State violates all of the rules that make ordered liberty possible.
  • The modern liberal agenda is a transference neurosis of the modern liberal mind, acted out in the world’s economic, social and political theaters.
  • The liberal agenda’s Modern Permissive Culture corrupts the foundations of civilized freedom and is destroying America's magnificent political achievements.
The liberal agenda’s basic principles are not only antithetical to our most cherished liberties; they are also directly contrary to all that is good and noble in the human enterprise.

The Liberal Mind is the first work to explain why modern liberalism appeals to the irrational tendencies of the human mind. It is the first work to explain how liberalism can be defeated.

In the course of this analysis, The Liberal Mind asks and answers the following critical question: Why would anyone want a political system that restricts personal freedom instead of enhancing it; denounces personal responsibility instead of promoting it; surrenders personal sovereignty instead of honoring it; attacks the philosophical foundations of liberty instead of defending them; encourages government dependency instead of self-reliance; and undermines the character of the people by making them wards of the state?
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It is not even new: It goes along with Michael Savages book "Liberalism is a mental disorder" (http://www.amazon.com/Liberalism-Mental-Disorder-Savage-Solutions/dp/1595550062)

Wow, there are actually people that do caall this kinda stuff "analyisis", and they learne about journalism?

Analysis is the process of breaking a complex topic or substance into smaller parts to gain a better understanding of it. The technique has been applied in the study of mathematics and logic since before Aristotle, though analysis as a formal concept is a relatively recent development.
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This from wikipedia, I would phrase it differently, but it suffices for this case.

Read some of the other also notably prominent forensic psychiatrists about his hypothesis:

Another Ann Coulter School member (This link didn't work and was deleted)
I sure hope this person isn’t employed by anyone. If so, they should be fired. I also certainly hope that this retard doesn’t work directly with patients. This kind of blatant political lie, marked up to pretend it is medicine, should completely undermine this dipshits credibility. Are you a doctor? Or a political hack?


A parental government? Like ones that wants to watch what we do in the bedroom?



That arrests us for growing plants that make us feel good? Ones that make our children pledge their allegiance to God every morning?
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This just for starters, more fom where it came from (and I actually read the book, one yr ago... Why is it coming up now as NEW ?)


(JFDR, at this special time, my tonights disclaimer still holds true: http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/531998-post.html)


Rattler
 
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rattler, who are you quoting here?
rattler said:
I sure hope this person isn’t employed by anyone. If so, they should be fired. I also certainly hope that this retard doesn’t work directly with patients. This kind of blatant political lie, marked up to pretend it is medicine, should completely undermine this dipshits credibility. Are you a doctor? Or a political hack?


A parental government? Like ones that wants to watch what we do in the bedroom?



That arrests us for growing plants that make us feel good? Ones that make our children pledge their allegiance to God every morning?
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Rob Henderson said:
-snip- I know plenty of current and former military men who say "I believe military service should be mandatory for everyone at some point in their lives."
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Indeed, all for it here, and I am what you call "liberal" (i.e. in EuroSpeak have been a "Socialist" all my life).

Having a mandatory mil service not only teaches the young guys all the great things as ironing shirts, discipline, "follow orders even if they come from the most stupid individual you can right now think of", "rush & wait", integrate in a team, etc., but it seriously integreates populace with the Armed Forces in a way I as European like to think about it:

If your Armed Forces average member represents your nation´s average citizen, things will work allright (politically, that is: to a point that I will leave open to discussion; at least you will face a lesser chance of an Army turned agnst its citiczens...), whereas totally professional Armed Forces - while probably being more effective in mil terms - tend to represent a marginal part of the population (and can be manipulated by the political overhead accordingly):

- people that find no other job (for educational or economic or regional reasons)
- people with extreme ideologies
- people with some pschyological problems (as inferiority complex, megalomanic complex, etc).

Suffices to say that many all-pro armies (like here in Spain) have to turn to adapt arms manuals to comics, because many soldiers have problems to read.... (!)

Every nation decides between those extremes, but I, for instance, would have liked that Spain would have kept up conscription just to have my sons seen go through and having them ha build a n iddea what their state stands for - in good and bad.

As German, in my time, we had the concept of "Citizen in Arms", and I feel that is the way to go (partially, as the Germans do: A mix of pros with a short conscript period for eveybody - 6 month right now in Germany if I recall right - things have chaged a lot in the last three decades...). This system compensates for the deficiencies described above, IMHO, without reucing effectifity greatly.

When I was young, I hated it (couldn´t even wear my ear piercing in the ´70s). Today, and many years out, I understand it and cherish what I have learned.

There are things I would like to see become better (as not to demotivate perfectly motivated youngsters that enter, just by not having them do anything or repetitive stuff w/o tactical sense), but overall I think mandatory mil service once in his life does good to everybody (everybody inlcudes gals).

My 2 Eurocents,

Rattler
 
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So let me ask you once again. Who were you quoting? Was it Ann Coulter?
 
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Quoting the link as described: It says "Ann Coulter School" (and I haven´t the faintes clue who this is)...

Whether this is correct or no I have no means to ascertain/unascertain, I go with what it says.

Read it for yourself and feel free to correct if I got it wrong.

Rattler
 
In that case you're not quoting anyone, you're just cutting and pasting from lolife. :-?
 
Yes, now that the link works, it's clear what you were doing. BTW, Ann Coulter is a conservative TV/radio personality and that site was being sarcastic about the "school".
 
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I think it has some merit when it comes to the extreme left-wing folks. I don't think middle of the road left wing folks suffer from mental disorder at all. The extreme? Definitely! They seem to lose all sense of perspective (China is just the same as the US for example), think Saddam Hussein is a "good" dictator... heard all kinds of stuff. They are truly nuts and they all seem to have one thing in common: extreme immaturity.
The extreme right is the same as well.
Just need to watch a short clip of Ann Coulter talking to see what I mean.
 
13th I agree with you. I've always pictured the political views as a clock face, with the extreme left & right being 11 & 1 o'clock repsectively. As when they get that extreme they are so narrow minded and willing to promote their views that they'll do anything to further their objectives, that they become essentially the same, it is just the justification which is different. Most people fall into the lower orders of the clock face, me I'm a 6, moving between 4 & 8, depending on my mood and the day.
 
The main difference in my opinion is the following:

Extreme left: They're very immature. They think far too complicated that they get lost in their thoughts and how things relate to the big picture. Also they know more about their own country than that of anything abroad so they seem to fail to question whether or not something foreign is good or bad (often accepting it as good) while thinking things that are in their own country as bad. In a way, it's a need to escape like a teenager contemplating running away from home. They're full of sh*t but they don't always seem to sing to the same tune even though the message is essentially the same (we are bad, we must apologize to the world, evil corporations etc etc etc)

Extreme right: I've met plenty of people who are extreme right who seem to be pretty mature but they tend to have one thing in common in that their minds are lazy. They don't think twice, lump all groups into convenient and arbitrary groups that don't really represent reality. In short, they actually don't go out of the way to try to understand the problem or the enemy and through this fear of the unknown come up with "solutions" which can be seriously misguided. They will chirp to the party line.

What they definitely have in common:
Both left and right wing extremists believe that they are victims of some kind of oppression. It's not surprising as it's a very easy way of getting followers. "Your situation? It's not your fault, it's not your fault... don't listen to what others have told you. I know who is truly responsible and they are the [insert group here] and this is why..."
They both take part in "good for the soul" kind of stuff, though because of historical reasons, extreme right wing groups have a harder time of doing it in public. The marches, the protests etc. the guys taking part don't necessarily care whether or not it makes a difference. But they feel a need to express, an escape from their every day boring lives. In short, it's good for the soul. If their cause is furthered, so be it, if not, then so what?

And you are right, the more extreme they get, the more similar they get.
 
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Is it just me or is the majority of people are republicans?

Or perhaps, 95 percent are republicans, the other 4 are fascist and the 1 percent are liberals?
 
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