Ode to nice guys

Rabs

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This is a tribute to the nice guys. The nice guys that finish last, that never become more than friends, that endure hours of whining and bitching about what assholes guys are, while disproving the very point. This is dedicated to those guys who always provide a shoulder to lean on but restrain themselves to tentative hugs, those guys who hold open doors and give reassuring pats on the back and sit patiently outside the changing room at department stores. This is in honor of the guys that obligingly reiterate how cute/beautiful/smart/funny/sexy their female friends are at the appropriate moment, because they know most girls need that litany of support. This is in honor of the guys with open minds, with laid-back attitudes, with honest concern. This is in honor of the guys who respect a girl’s every facet, from her privacy to her theology to her clothing style.

This is for the guys who escort their drunk, bewildered female friends back from parties and never take advantage once they’re at her door, for the guys who accompany girls to bars as buffers against the rest of the creepy male population, for the guys who know a girl is fishing for compliments but give them out anyway, for the guys who always play by the rules in a game where the rules favor cheaters, for the guys who are accredited as boyfriend material but somehow don’t end up being boyfriends, for all the nice guys who are overlooked, underestimated, and unappreciated, for all the nice guys who are manipulated, misled, and unjustly abandoned, this is for you.

This is for that time she left 40 urgent messages on your cell phone, and when you called her back, she spent three hours painstakingly dissecting two sentences her boyfriend said to her over dinner. And even though you thought her boyfriend was a chump and a jerk, you assured her that it was all ok and she shouldn’t worry about it. This is for that time she interrupted the best killing spree you’d ever orchestrated in GTA3 to rant about a rumor that romantically linked her and the guy she thinks is the most repulsive person in the world. And even though you thought it was immature and you had nothing against the guy, you paused the game for two hours and helped her concoct a counter-rumor to spread around the floor. This is also for that time she didn’t have a date, so after numerous vows that there was nothing “serious” between the two of you, she dragged you to a party where you knew nobody, the beer was awful, and she flirted shamelessly with you, justifying each fit of reckless teasing by announcing to everyone: “oh, but we’re just friends!” And even though you were invited purely as a symbolic warm body for her ego, you went anyways. Because you’re nice like that.

The nice guys don’t often get credit where credit is due. And perhaps more disturbing, the nice guys don’t seem to get laid as often as they should. And I wish I could logically explain this trend, but I can’t. From what I have observed on campus and what I have learned from talking to friends at other schools and in the workplace, the only conclusion I can form is that many girls are just illogical, manipulative bitches. Many of them claim they just want to date a nice guy, but when presented with such a specimen, they say irrational, confusing things such as “oh, he’s too nice to date” or “he would be a good boyfriend but he’s not for me” or “he already puts up with so much from me, I couldn’t possibly ask him out!” or the most frustrating of all: “no, it would ruin our friendship.” Yet, they continue to lament the lack of datable men in the world, and they expect their too-nice-to-date male friends to sympathize and apologize for the men that are jerks. Sorry, guys, girls like that are beyond my ability to fathom. I can’t figure out why the connection breaks down between what they say (I want a nice guy!) and what they do (I’m going to sleep with this complete ass now!). But one thing I can do, is say that the nice-guy-finishes-last phenomenon doesn’t last forever. There are definitely many girls who grow out of that train of thought and realize they should be dating the nice guys, not taking them for granted. The tricky part is finding those girls, and even trickier, finding the ones that are single.

So, until those girls are found, I propose a toast to all the nice guys. You know who you are, and I know you’re sick of hearing yourself described as ubiquitously nice. But the truth of the matter is, the world needs your patience in the department store, your holding open of doors, your party escorting services, your propensity to be a sucker for a pretty smile. For all the crazy, inane, absurd things you tolerate, for all the situations where you are the faceless, nameless hero, my accolades, my acknowledgement, and my gratitude go out to you. You do have credibility in this society, and your well deserved vindication is coming.



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Yeah, those nice guys deserve an ode. Chicks got to have someone to run to after I've kicked em' out the bedroom and before they come back the next night.
 
"for the guys who are accredited as boyfriend material but somehow don’t end up being boyfriends"

like your reading my diary
 
The only reason this chick can't figure it out is because she's an airheaded chick.

Chicks dig the alpha-males. Of course women always want to "nest down" with a nice guy, but what their loins want is that 'bad' strong guy or the rich guy, the alpha-males.
 
Whispering Death said:
Chicks dig the alpha-males. Of course women always want to "nest down" with a nice guy, but what their loins want is that 'bad' strong guy or the rich guy, the alpha-males.

amen


therise, quit writing in your diary (diarys are for girls!!!! :twisted: ) and get out there and at least pretend to be an alpha male!!!! leave it to other chumps to be "the nice guy"
 
Gotta agree and im female. There is something boring about been nice all the time, you want a bit of excitment not someone that rings his ma first thing in the morning. But if works both ways you can a common ground between nice and bad
 
And perhaps more disturbing, the nice guys don’t seem to get laid as often as they should.


If that's what you're after, I'd have to go ahead and say you're not being a "nice guy," you're just going about getting what you want in a different (and less successful) way. If you're after getting "laid," then just be straight forward about it.


I have a couple buddies who always whine and moan about how abused they, as "nice guys," are by every girl they let take advantage of them, but the problem isn't the girls, these fellows need to sack up, realize that letting a girl walk all over them isn't being "nice," it's being used, and that standing up for your principles and treating females with the proper respect and dignity does not involve becoming a whipping boy.

Treating others in a respectful manner is something you should do because it is right, not because you expect to get something out of it from someone, because you very rarely will.
 
I agree. Being a nice guy doesnt mean letting the girl do whatever she wants with you. I consider myself a niceguy. thats mainly because my goal isnt to get in a girl's pants. i value a relationship over sex. i believe that once you do have a good relationship, sex will come in due time and it will be much better..

One other thing. Many nice guys have the wrong impression on girls. to some, there are nice guys and bad guys all going for the same kind of girl. WRONG. there are different types of girls too. many good looking girls are more interested in the bad boy, especially in highschool. you gotta find the girls who have moved on from that stage. that is why many nice guys arent too successful with girls. many young girls are after the bad boy. Patience is a virtue, one that i have been blessed with.
 
Rabs said:
And perhaps more disturbing, the nice guys don’t seem to get laid as often as they should.
The reason for that is a nice guy isn't trying to get into a girls pants. If they were then would they be nice guys?
...that endure hours of whining and bitching about what assholes guys are, while disproving the very point.
That has happened to me before. One girl said to me, "It's hard to find a guy who is sweet, nice, and caring. But they all seem to have boyfriends." Even though the week before she told me i was probably the nicest guy she's ever met :?.
 
[quote="Cadet Chief Robot] That has happened to me before. One girl said to me, "It's hard to find a guy who is sweet, nice, and caring. But they all seem to have boyfriends." Even though the week before she told me i was probably the nicest guy she's ever met :?.[/quote]

same here man, and its like, wait a minute, *cough cough* shit i gotta get going, talk to ya later
 
if shes throwing lines like that around then: a) you are in the "friend zone" b)you aren't out there enough to really intrigue or get her affection. you can post on a forum of you can go out and show her what a man you are (but please, no indecent exposure charges, ok!!)

by and large, nice guys are the ones who expect the girls to come to them. the ones who put themself in the game are the ones who get attenetion and affection
 
Cadet Chief Robot said:
Rabs said:
And perhaps more disturbing, the nice guys don’t seem to get laid as often as they should.
The reason for that is a nice guy isn't trying to get into a girls pants. If they were then would they be nice guys?
...that endure hours of whining and bitching about what assholes guys are, while disproving the very point.
That has happened to me before. One girl said to me, "It's hard to find a guy who is sweet, nice, and caring. But they all seem to have boyfriends." Even though the week before she told me i was probably the nicest guy she's ever met :?.

thats where u put the foot down and say, "you blind? im right here!" it works. believe me.
 
no offense, but $5 says it doesnt!!!
if shes pulling those sort of lines out with you around then shes not interested in you in that way and you are within the friendzone, which is a helluva place to break out of

if a girl is bitching about other guys and her sitatuion its either the biggest come on or you are just a friend

on ths subject of chicks saying what they want vs what they mean:

Bash.org said:
A woman has a close male friend. This means that he is probably interested in her, which is why he hangs around so much. She sees him strictly as a friend. This always starts out with, you're a great guy, but I don't like you in that way. This is roughly the equivalent for the guy of going to a job interview and the company saying, You have a great resume, you have all the qualifications we are looking for, but we're not going to hire you. We will, however, use your resume as the basis for comparison for all other applicants. But, we're going to hire somebody who is far less qualified and is probably an alcoholic. And if he doesn't work out, we'll hire somebody else, but still not you. In fact, we will never hire you. But we will call you from time to time to complain about the person that we hired.
 
I never read that from bash but that is about the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life! Comedy genius
 
Man, this is good stuff. Maybe I should have gotten out more. :) Just remember, when the lust wears off, you're going to have to have a conversation with a real live person instead of the sex God/Goddess you thought you couldn't live without 24 hours ago. When that happens, then you will be very surprised either in a good or bad way because no one, especially men, can think rationally when the old target lock-on is in auto. Usually one of the couple, sometimes both, will think "what happened to him/her?" Ladies, you can't have Woody Allen's wit or Bill Gates' intelligence in Arnold Schwarzenegger's body. If either one is not willing to learn about the person underneath the skin, then don't waste your time, $50 will get you what want downtown.
 
Missileer said:
Man, this is good stuff. Maybe I should have gotten out more. :) Just remember, when the lust wears off, you're going to have to have a conversation with a real live person instead of the sex God/Goddess

thats the thing.
dont think of them as a goddess.
the eat, drink and :cen: , just like the rest of us. they are human. treat them like a goddess and you will end up one sad and sorry pussy-whip boy
 
Well, I've been called a nice guy more than once. I've been married over ten years, too. See? There is hope for nice guys. 8)
 
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